Hero and villain have been playing together for 2 hours.

Hero has shown only two hands and played probaly 4 or 5. So tight image.

Villain has played few more hands, played a pot passively with Ace rag and made and awful lay down when after reraising me on the flop, didn't call a shotie's all in (after I folded) for £20 more when there was £145 in the pot!!

This is a £1\2. Hero has £350, villain covers us.

Hero is utg w AK and opens for £10. Only caller is villain on the button. Pot £23.

Flop 8AK
Hero checks ( I don't want to scare villain off) villain bets £15, Hero calls. Pot £53

Turn 7
hero checks hoping villain will barrel again, and villain obliges betting £80.
now this starts worring me a bit as the size of the pot is quickly escalating, at this point a put villain on A8, AK or 8s. Hero calls praying for an A or K to fall on the river. Pot £213, hero has £245 behind.

River is J.
Hero checks again, villain shoves pretty quickly.

Hero tanks thinking the only hand that beats us is 8s.

Call or fold? Any other comments? Does villains overbetting mean smtg?

cawl

call

i think i m raising most turns here

This is a test because you don't have the absolute nuts?

snaaaaaaaaap call

Wow tough spot. At first I thought insta call but then I read the villain plays ace rag passively meaning it is doubtful that he would be this aggressive with something like AQ and AJ not to mention overbetting the pot on the turn and the river. I think at a minimum he has AK and very often a set of 8s. When a passive player spazzes like this on a board with an ace and a king which we very well could have, I think you can assume his range as being more heavily weighted towards sets. I don't think he plays like this with A8 since you could easily have AK. It's also a horrible spot to bluff so I think I can click fold on the river. Call me a nit I guess.

im raising the turn and if he has trips i lose. and i wouldnt have checked twice and given him a chance to draw out on something.

Villain played a hand passively, but as I don't know him I can't assume he is passive.

I think sometimes I overthink/level myself, but after I raise utg, and call the huge overbet on the turn, what the hell can I have in his eyes? There is no draw.

I thought for a moment about c/r all in on the turn, but I will only be called if I am beat and it would look super strong, why not flat and give villain more rope to hang himself.

When he shoves I tell him there is only one hand that beats me (in my eyes at least, 8s) and given the size of the pot and my read (A8) I can't fold.

I call and he shows AJ!! wtf. He tells me I made and awful call as he was representing a set.

I hope you said nothing back to him. No way do I call this turn if I'm not calling the river too, by the way. Nice hand.

88 77 and 9Tdd beat you btw.

Haha nice call. I probably would have folded. It's just weird how someone can go from a passive fish to an aggrodonk for no apparent reason. I don't know why he picked this particular hand to overplay AJ. I thought he was a level 0 thinker but I guess he is actually a level 2 thinker, well maybe 1.5 since he was too lazy to put you on a hand. Maybe he was just on tilt from that bad laydown from before.

First: your hand is ridiculously underepped.
2nd, theres more **** in his range than just 88, and A8 on the turn. Does he always barrel when checked to? He's already shown to be aggressive by that hand previously where he bluff raised the flop.

Also your logic makes absolutely no sense. You check to trap villain but then you're scared of his range and think you're beat.

You played your hand super passively. I don't think theres a chance he puts you on AK. You could easily be good here and you're definitely better then the odds you're getting. Call.

I can't believe some of the responses itt. Super snap fistpump shove.

This is a standard call. We don't fold top 2 or sets much in £1/2 when there are no obvious flushes or straights on the board. Especially if our hand is massively underrepped.

This isnt even close to a tough spot people and anything but stacking off is wrong. However, we should be trying to stack off way sooner than the river. More like the turn, just check and shove being that you have taken such a passive line on the flop.

Checking the flop because you dont want to scare the villian off is horrible thinking. Checking because you want to induce a bluff from air or a "value" bet from lesser holdings is another thing.

This is a super duper standard b/b/b line. Anything else is silly.

I can get behind a c/c on the flop. I hate the flat ott. The turn overbet by villain is never a set, and almost always AQ/AJ/A8/maybe AK. I raise for value ott and make sure I get it in OTR.

I'm just curious. All of you people who are saying snap call, what range are you putting a passive player on? It just seems odd that a passive player would spaz with just an ace on a flop that hits hero's range pretty hard.

call

Also 88, but not considering action OTT.


Also, OP never said Vil was passive, just played a top pair/rag kicker hand passively (Ax). Most random villains will overvalue TPGK especially with an A.