2-3 NL playing wild. V1 is tight but not a nit. V2 is a pro who has 3b V1 several times. V3 is on monkey tilt, she just recently jammed pre with 65s

Hero in co with AKo

V1 (1K) opens 11 in mp, V2 (800) 3b to 35 in LJ, V3 (220) snap jams HJ. Hero..

Stacks behind are mostly 1K.

Raise $400 Pretty much gonna call them if jammed on. Especially v2

Against a lol small open, an active 3bettor, and a lol tilty jammer, I think I would be ok with flatting and evaluating (probably folding if jammed on behind). Our flat for this amount looks scary AF so I don't think we're going to get played back at (I would be flatting all of my monsters here to encourage action behind). No reason to (min) re-raise since the jam is already a huge 4bet.

And could possibly also just go low variance route and fold.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Re-raise/call. Never flatting and never folding.

You can just fold for $0

And before everyone piles on, I dislike that much less than call or even the minor FPS $405 instead, it's not like you are raise/folding with 99 or A5s.
I guess I might feel like going $405 with AA or KK ... but honestly I probably just ship it anyway, for a bunch of reasons including that only AA/KK wants to do anything else.


Call seems objectively the worst (although I can see how in gobbledygeek's games that might be okay) because V2 esp. is going to think JJ or QQ is significantly better (assuming they are also paying attn. to V3) and there'll be a dry side pot so QQ/JJ become much easier to fold when you hit.

I wasn’t contemplating raising, I would always call with AA to keep them in and set up a nice low spr to gii on flop / turn. This protects my AK.

FWIW, usually I don't like putting in so much of our stack with AK just to see a flop (i.e. we have to make sure we see all 5 cards to realize our equity). But I'm assuming a flat will often do that here since the 4bet over the 3bet is so large. I mean, I really don't expect the EP callers to continue to this sizing without monsters, so I'm not expecting postflop play. If the 4bet was to like $100 then we'd be in more of a raise/fold spot.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Yeah. Imagine a future where we get stacks in pre, lose, and think to ourselves, "I could have just folded pre."

If the 4B was less than all in, would we look at this any differently? Like, would we be talking about 5B'ing or cold flatting against normal ranges here?

We're probably not in terrible shape against her tilt-jam, but if we 5B re-jam, we're probably in horrible shape if tight V1 or pro V2 call. If we flat call, we're just donating when we fold to a re-jam or when we don't smash the board post.

It's just AKo. We have nothing invested in this pot yet. We're allowed to fold the nut no pair. Let one of the other guys look her up. Even tilted players can pick up a real hand.

Result:
Hero calls 220, folds back to V2 who jams 800 with QQ and scoops.

A little bit of a surprising line by V2 as we look tarpy as ****. Ug, I guess we're getting 2:1 at this point but I still think I fold as 5bet in LLSNL is AA/KK pretty much always, especially for these stack sizes (at least in my game).

Gunfortunatespot,imoG

You folded to the jam, or you called and whiffed?

Calling the $220 and folding to the jam seems like it would be a mistake with AK. There's around $1250 in the pot and you're getting over 2.5 to 1.

I called of course.

Ouch