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I personally don't like the $20 bet/fold line because it is so different from the way I would usually value bet in this position, so like you said, P4MS, it would be so weak, whereas I will sometimes check here with a monster. Maybe in a tournament or for others who use these small bets when value betting this line works, but that's why I prefer the check/fold line.

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11-09-2011 , 06:44 PM

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AintNoLimit

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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool

Its clear you don't have any ego problems in these stakes, which is probably huge +ev for you. I hate underbetting the pot because I am sending the message to my opponents that I am not strong, and this message is true. Is this an ego problem on my behalf?

Lets look at the facts as i see them anyhow.

-They will rarely bluff raise us.
-We dont have to care about balance.
-We narrow their range really well if they only call the $15 or $20.
-They will raise with top pair often to a $15 or $20 bet.
-I do rep weakness. How will he react? I think he will act straight forward and raise top pair and be happy to call with all his weaker range.

I could go on a bit.

So this is why I do it. Im not sure I know what you mean by the ego statement. This is just purely going by the facts as I see them.

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11-09-2011 , 06:48 PM

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ebarnet

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Originally Posted by TheSalesman

Pretty standard shove. Not the greatest spot to be in. With a $16 pot to you, I think raise to $28 with these stacks is a little bit smallish. Make it $35 to go, and you don't even have a decision if you get to a flop.

Was just scrolling down to see if someone would mention this. THIS. THIIIIIIIIIS

+111111!!!!!!!one

edit: might even just shove all in preflop cuz if you don't flop something u have reverse implied odds working against u...

Last edited by ebarnet; 11-09-2011 at 06:54 PM.

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11-09-2011 , 06:55 PM

#29

ebarnet

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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool

Results:

I shoved, villain 1 tanked called for like 2 minutes with QJoffsuit and V2 folded. v1 scooped.

If he had less than a Q or something smaller particularly like 55,66 I think I get him to fold

tanking is a ****ing slowroll, what a piece of ****, u deserve to suckout

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11-10-2011 , 04:15 PM

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Big Jon 21

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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2

He described the table as passive. How many passive players are bluff catching with AJ?

Well probably not AJ...But we are forcing villain to incorrectly fold most pp's, and 14 combos of AK and we are forcing him to correctly fold 15 combos of AJ...sounds good to me!

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11-10-2011 , 04:21 PM

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Big Jon 21

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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool

wow...what a juicy table huh? As was stated before either c/f or shove would work here but shove=higher EV play than c/f obviously. And im assuming you would play AA-QQ this way so villain made huge mistakes pre/postflop! WP imo!!

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11-10-2011 , 04:42 PM

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Pay4Myschool

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Originally Posted by ebarnet

tanking is a ****ing slowroll, what a piece of ****, u deserve to suckout

He tanked because he thought I had AA or KK, but couldnt find a fold button. I dont think he meant to slowroll; just makes no sense why he would call pre if he thought of folding the flop with TP

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11-10-2011 , 06:51 PM

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TripleH68

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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool

He tanked because he thought I had AA or KK, but couldnt find a fold button. I dont think he meant to slowroll; just makes no sense why he would call pre if he thought of folding the flop with TP

Losing $$ to these players can be trying can't it?

Keep at it my friend!

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11-10-2011 , 06:53 PM

#34

fun101

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i know u guys might disagree with me but i would opt for a c/f here.

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11-10-2011 , 08:26 PM

#35

Pay4Myschool

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Originally Posted by fun101

i know u guys might disagree with me but i would opt for a c/f here.

I dont disagree with you, hence why I posted. If we made it more pre, are you attacking the flop more aggressively. Say we made it 32-38 preflop, hero....?

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