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Ak, 2/5 villain donk leads turn. 350bbw deep. Ak, 2/5 villain donk leads turn. 350bbw deep.

12-22-2014 , 04:24 AM
Hero, young white male. 25 lost 1500 fast. Opponents view me as a maniac.

Villain 1 very passive loose player. Doesn't bluff much sees a lot of flops and turns.

Villain 2 Asian maybe 29 seems to be tight normally but today seems to be gambling. 17 hours into his session. Sucked out a couple hands and now is up to about 2k. Got cought in a few bluffs spots.

Hero raises to 25 utg ak dd, v1 calls and v2 calls in bb.
Flop is a72 rainbow
Hero bets 50 gets two calls.
Turn 225ish. J c
Villian 2 leads 150.. Hero? I'll continue hand after some insight on turn decision.
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12-22-2014 , 04:46 AM
I'd bet smaller otf on such dry board. Prob half pot

Ott, readless I call.
If I have reads that v is a good pro who never overplays his hand and is good at maximize value, I might hero fold.
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12-22-2014 , 05:48 AM
I'm assuming eff stacks are $500, you lost $1500 and have reloaded and are at $500 when this hand starts???

You said you are seen as a maniac because you lost $1500 fast and I assume you were making moves and spewing or maybe you ran bad but regardless, villains see you as a maniac and easy money?

If that is the case, you can just shove.

Once you are branded the maniac and the table mark, you will get called down ridiculously light to include TPNK and middle pair.

Your other option is to just min-raise and then get stacks in on 100% of all rivers, that is fine as well.

Basically, when you are honestly branded the maniac and table mark and everyone is itching to get it in with you because you are running bad and just blown through $1500, trust me, you are going to get called down ridiculously light.

So if you "truly" are the table maniac, jam this turn all day everyday and twice on Sunday with top top when SPR is anywhere near 2 or lower...

EDIT:

I see by the thread title I guess you are 350bb deep and eff stacks are 350bb deep?

If that is the case, then raise turn to $400, and overbet pot on river.
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12-22-2014 , 06:04 AM
I hate this spot on the turn. When someone c/c the flop and then leads the turn into two players, they're usually very strong. V2 isn't just playing against the maniac hero. He's playing against V1, too.

When a "normally tight" player bets into two players on this board, I think the only hand we beat is AQ. If it were heads up, I be would inclined to just call the flop and plan to call or bet every river. This turn lead wreaks of AJ or 2 pair+ in general.

With action still behind us, I think this is a fold.

Did the J put a flush draw out there?

Last edited by jesse123; 12-22-2014 at 06:11 AM.
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12-22-2014 , 08:40 AM
call and re-evaluate on river.

Value of having crazy image goes down when V donks into two people this deep.
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12-22-2014 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominated
I'd bet smaller otf on such dry board. Prob half pot
Are you doing this against a good V who may pick up on weak bet-sizings and may bluffraise you?
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12-22-2014 , 04:01 PM
Flat
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12-22-2014 , 04:33 PM
Yeah we started the hand about 350 bigs deep
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12-22-2014 , 04:50 PM
I'm a reg here they know I'm one of the better players, they think I'm on tilt, (I'm not) I'm not sure what to range him here with this line?
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12-22-2014 , 04:52 PM
Well, I just keep my bet sizing consistent with strong and weak hands. Do you think this is a mistake? Or should my cbet be smaller with bluffs as well?
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12-22-2014 , 04:53 PM
And yes jc put two clubs on the board.
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12-22-2014 , 04:55 PM
I ran a 3 street bluff on 224q9 where I thought the guy was getting sticky with 66-99 I jammed river he had qj o. Lol.. then got aa allin pre 850 and lost to qq and said they were good without q. So they think I'm going nuts.
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12-23-2014 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fizzypants
Are you doing this against a good V who may pick up on weak bet-sizings and may bluffraise you?
Why is it weak? Not too many hands can call a big bet on this board.
I'd bet the same with AA and begging a call from worse.
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