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Originally Posted by submersible
size makes no sense when you x turn
There is a narrow portion of range that could do this for value. Some trapped flushes, 54, and some sets could still take this line for value. When villain check calls flop, checks turn, and checks river, he doesn't scream strength. I would expect flushes to either raise the flop or bet the river a lot. Even if he called flop with Ad, he can value bet river now. Although villain may be not going for thin enough value.
Ideally you want to have some diamond in your hand to make this play. Kd because is the natural choice since Ad is top pair now. And I think it is reasonable to have some bluffs in your range at a smaller size like 75% pot.
But the reality is that we could be totally out of line and be unbalanced with bluffs even with bad blockers and it is very unlikely for anyone in live poker to adjust accordingly. Villain will need to defend some with hands like 98s, 87s, T8s, K8s, 7d7x, 5d5x, 4d4x to avoid overfolding. He probably calls and A, but that's okay. Very likely this gets through enough to be profitable imo.
In theory we can't Cbet every flop with this hand, but sometimes it is good. We need some hands to bluff 4 flush runouts, and often busted straight draws work well.