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09-20-2016 , 07:45 AM
It seems obvious to me OP should play limit until he can beat it. Or at least play scratch.

I never had the symptoms OP describes, to the extent he describes. However it sounds like he needs a sound pre-flop strategy. So just memorize the PF strategy in Sklansky & Miller and stick to it. Call it a diet.
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09-20-2016 , 08:05 AM
A full fat-value only diet
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09-20-2016 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Ragequit99
OK it would be more accurate to say "zoom plays significantly different to other online poker and very, very differently to live poker".

For me "real poker" is live poker. I say this because it's my favourite version of the game. I justify my favouritism as follows:

Live poker is at one table at a time so everyone is in the same game therefore players' moods/psychology affects table dynamics and game flow in a way that is reduced online and basically non existent in zoom poker.

Zoom poker totally removes the boredom factor which fundamentally changes the way the game plays. Patience is a virtue most live players don't have. Patience isn't required in zoom poker. 1200 hands an hour is 5x AA, 5x KK, 5x QQ, 10x AK. Messing up a strong hand because you're trying to play two other strong hands at the same time, with 20s to act, is a greater problem in zoom than lack of patience!

Basically live poker has more going on, more to think about, more to watch for and more opportunities to gain an edge and is therefore more fun than online, particularly Zoom poker.


Compared to online in general:

Live includes a whole host of physical tells that don't exist online.

Live benefits jovial, friendly and fun personalities while online is completely devoid of personal interaction.

Live requires greater self control (of emotions and therefore tells) when value betting or bluffing.

Live you are reliant on your own mind/memory with no software to prop you up. Observation is a skill, perhaps the biggest skill in poker and it barely exists online.
I guess this is where we differ in opinion then, poker is a game of decision making where those who make the best decisions make the most profit (cetirus paribus) and you have to make more decisions in the average hand online than live. Sorry for the thread derail, op.
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09-20-2016 , 01:46 PM
^ Eh? Sorry that makes no sense wj294. The number of decision points are the same regardless of the format, I never said anything about poker NOT being about decision making, the live/online/zoom games differ exactly as I describe AND it isn't even a derail! OP wants ideas on how to overcome his tilt issues while learning to beat live 1/2. I'm trying to give him a good idea how online/zoom may be able to help and where the two formats differ sufficiently for him to have to be careful transferring ideas between formats.

I honestly have no idea what you think I'm trying to say and therefore no idea what your disagreeing with!

I suspect you skim read my posts and concluded I hate online poker and don't have much experience of it. I like it, I just prefer live. I have played somewhere around 2 million hands online from $2NL up to $200NL, from HU to full ring and one table at time up to 18 tables normal speed and 8 tables of zoom. I've used software for about half those hands and forced myself to do it without for the other half.

Last edited by Ragequit99; 09-20-2016 at 01:51 PM.
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