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Villain 1 the spot at the table. 1,5k
Villain 2 asian woman in 40s. Usually tight saw her raise before 86 in mp and bet 100 in 80 4way on TTJJ after everybody checked otf. First time I saw her play a hand like that.

V2 limps utg, hero raises to 25 in mp, V1 calls, btn calls, blinds calls, V2 calls.
Flop (150) 872
everybody checks
Turn 8722
V2 checks, hero bets 75, V1 calls, V2 x/r to 170, hero calls, v1 calls.
River (660) 87225
V2 bets 300

WTF did i just read

I mean, why are we posting this hand

Her line (and yours too) doesn’t make much sense to the river and you’re getting a helluva price assuming v1 is clueless

Anything but calling is beyond terrible so what are we contemplating here?

LOL why doesnt my line make sense?

River isnt about folding. I thought it is crystal clear that my question is about raising or calling.

Does anyone like a small bet (25-33% pot) from hero on the flop? I’m thinking hero could get value from worse and thin the field.

River is a pretty clear fold imo. You described villain as tight, meaning you beat almost nothing. Optimistically we can give her a few strong semi-bluffs like 9t,j9,jt, a-broadway of hearts.

Probably best to bet flop.

I think hand has been played well and I am extremely ok with checking the flop. Unless you have a reason to think villain will pay off with worse- which I don't think the player pool does very often, I think your decision is between calling and folding not calling and raising.

I am not sure what to make of villain's line. I think the turn mini raise is very strong- full house strong- but I am torn about the river bet. Maybe she's taking you to value town or she's betting a medium strength hand.

If I would call, I would do so because the pot odds are good, because I am not 100% sure she's super strong and isn't doing this with medium strength hands and because AA is near the top of my range in that spot. Not a fist pump call though.

I feel comfortable with where I stand vis a vis V1's range.

Ignore previous comment, though hero had 86hh.

As played, call is good.

Probably a raise isn’t getting called by worse.
She might be value betting a small overpair, like TT/99, or 8x, so you can’t fold.
Just call.

I call. Hand seems fine.

Took me a sec to realize you didn't have 86h lmao

Def ok with the check on flop, and AA is prob the best of our overpairs to check on the flop as well. I think there's a very real chance she's interpreted the flop check to mean you don't have an overpair and she's overplaying a hand like 87s or A8s. Would also be helpful to know your suits to see if we can discount more combos of A2s. Assuming you call river vwp.

Sorry just noticed I forgot her stack size and my hand with suits in the post. She had around 600 in total otr and I had AA

So opponent only has 300 behind after her bet? That’s very relevant and means you might be able to jam river for value. She’ll be getting 5:1 on the call. Jam or call both fine, and which decision probably comes down to your reads on how FH heavy she is with this line. If you think more than 50% of her value range beats you then just call. Else jam.

You actually don't ask a question let alone it be clear.

Anyway bet flop, call now.

When I post a hand here I am asking other players for their opinion. Just posting the hand is indirectly asking when Im not directly asking a question imo.

Plan otf was to x/r

Why check the flop? You can get value from 2 draws. Raising the river is too thin in my opinion. Save it for your straight draws and boats. With AA you are blocking A8 which is what you are hoping she has. Raising KK,QQ would be better, you could min raise and fold to a re-raise but that is pushing it.

Does anyone like re-raising this turn? We gave the spot the right price to outdraw us otr.

OTR, given that the V1 spot hasn't acted, I'd rather just call hoping to get to showdown and maybe even getting the spot to call down with a medium pair. I don't see the point of jamming as we have minimal FE here.