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AA vs russian spy 5-10 AA vs russian spy 5-10

05-08-2013 , 06:49 PM
Villain is mid 30, russian and suspicious looking. Played 20 hands with him and seen him overbet top pair and top two on flops. Has €1900.

Hero is handsome scandinavian and has been folding for two orbits. Has €2000.


9 players. Hero opens AdAc to 40 from utg+1, villain calls in the cutoff and we are heads up.

Flop: 9s8s7d
Hero bets 75 into 90 and villain makes it 200..
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05-08-2013 , 06:52 PM
I call. Turn is 5h. I check and he fires 500.
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05-08-2013 , 09:41 PM
turn is a fold... flop is player dependent... i'm not even sure if it's right to lead such a coordinated flop that probably isn't in your utg+1 range... or is it and would the villian know this?
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05-08-2013 , 11:51 PM
Call flop and fold turn imo
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05-09-2013 , 12:37 AM
c betting flop is better than ch/c. im usually folding on flop to the raise against unknown.
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05-09-2013 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bamboo6386
c betting flop is better than ch/c. im usually folding on flop to the raise against unknown.


On a side note, I love the descriptions for hero and villain in the OP.

EDIT: At first I didn't bother posting my thoughts on the hand because it looked like such a simple call flop fold turn scenario. Looking again though, it rly seems like the only better hand he shows up may be j10 (or 106 if hes that loose pre). I dont see most guys potting it with a set or 2pair and I cant see him raising the flop with basically anything with a 6 in it. Kind of interesting actually, but given you have little info on him, theres probably too much of a chance he shows up with a set or a 6 somehow anyway. I'd probably fold after some thought.

Last edited by Parrydawg24; 05-09-2013 at 02:20 AM.
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05-09-2013 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rdnatm
turn is a fold... flop is player dependent... i'm not even sure if it's right to lead such a coordinated flop that probably isn't in your utg+1 range... or is it and would the villian know this?
Its not. After I cbet it flickered throught my mind(that he knew it wasnt in mu Utg+1range) and thats a little why I made the call.
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05-09-2013 , 08:28 AM
I was thinking he could do this with a bunch of straighdraws, pairs + draws, flushdraws and overpairs. But after some thought I think position, the strength of his draws combined with the times he allready has me beat, how live-players are usually passive, the fact that my hand cant improve and the little info on him is reasons to fold flop.

However as played, after folding, in what order do you rate calling and raising turn?
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05-09-2013 , 10:45 AM
Based on your read, he may be overplaying an overpair here. If so, you call turn and river is check check and you win. If not he fires river big and we easily fold.
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05-09-2013 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Parrydawg24


On a side note, I love the descriptions for hero and villain in the OP.

EDIT: At first I didn't bother posting my thoughts on the hand because it looked like such a simple call flop fold turn scenario. Looking again though, it rly seems like the only better hand he shows up may be j10 (or 106 if hes that loose pre). I dont see most guys potting it with a set or 2pair and I cant see him raising the flop with basically anything with a 6 in it. Kind of interesting actually, but given you have little info on him, theres probably too much of a chance he shows up with a set or a 6 somehow anyway. I'd probably fold after some thought.
lol. what turns are you comfortable calling with? We're folding to a bet when almost half the deck falls. (J, T, 6, 5, flush card, possibly 9,).

And from description it seems like this guy pot or overpots a ton. and if we do call the turn, then what do we do on the river?

I'd rather call with. TT, JJ, flush draws, T9.
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05-09-2013 , 01:59 PM
Pics of hero?
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05-09-2013 , 02:42 PM

Last edited by GreenJuice; 05-09-2013 at 02:49 PM.
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05-09-2013 , 03:30 PM
I check flop.
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05-09-2013 , 05:57 PM
Best reads ever in OP

Just a trash flop for our hand, if I'm not heavily weighted towards bet/calling, bet/folding, or bet/3b and getting it in I would check.

I likely ch/call the flop and play a turn.
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05-10-2013 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bamboo6386
lol. what turns are you comfortable calling with? We're folding to a bet when almost half the deck falls. (J, T, 6, 5, flush card, possibly 9,).

And from description it seems like this guy pot or overpots a ton. and if we do call the turn, then what do we do on the river?

I'd rather call with. TT, JJ, flush draws, T9.
Lol. You're folding AA on the flop to basically a minraise in a headsup pot, vs someone you know almost nothing about. Period.

You need to call 110 to win 365. Try constructing a range for villain against which this is anything but a call. Be prepared to make tough decisions on turn and river. In other words play poker.

The limited reads we have on villain suggest that he's probably capable of making some moves or playing hands a bit strangely. First of all there's no guarantee at all that he's betting the turn on either scare cards or bricks. In fact it looks more like a medium strength hands that wants to raise small so that he can check back turn. I think overpairs and a whole lot of random **** may be in this guys range, obviously as well as all the better hands.

Cliff notes: we cannot fold the flop for only 110 more to win 365.
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05-10-2013 , 09:24 AM
Against recreational live guys you can call flop and sometimes turn then fold to a river bomb because they like to overplay top pair/overpair "for protection" and then on the river they don't need to protect anymore so they check. If this guy was competent and capable of taking this line with overpair/top pair, and then turning it into a bluff on scary boards then you should always c/c flops like this that don't hit your range when SPR is still big enough to make stacking off bad.
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05-12-2013 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenJuice
Villain is mid 30, russian and suspicious looking.
...Hero is handsome scandinavian and has been folding for two orbits.
LMFAO...absolutely brilliant!
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