2nd hand, i sat down with 220...so obviously i know nothing about the table. Hero is dealt AA UTG, raises to 10...UTG +2 call, MP (600 stack) says raise and makes it 45 total. I immediately put him on KK or QQ..but i was leaning towards KK. I smooth call the 45..i didnt want to reraise, because i wanted to get it in on the flop if a K or Q didnt come, and i didnt want it to automatically look like i had AA. flop is 8 5 9 rainbow. Hero checks...villain bets 65...hero shoves all in. wanted to get opinions on how i played this, and if you like the play, given i put him on KK-QQ

four bet preflop, as played don't raise flop. Don't put someone on "KK or QQ" preflop your 2nd hand at the table.

You put him on KK or QQ and you didnt push him all-in as an unknown?

You gotta 4 bet the flop! Like the guy said above, its your second hand, you can't put anyone on anything.........

Only problem I have with your thought process is that if you are exclusively putting your opponent on KK, you're gonna fold a Kxx flop when he can easily have AK. You played it fine though, there's nothing wrong with flatting the 3bet. NH

If youre determined beforehand to flat a 3b with AA(which is fine on rare occassions for variety but is pretty terrible as a "standard" way to play AA from EP) open bigger... 18ish sounds right.

That said, if you believe, for some reason, your opponent has KK or QQ, shippopotomous. If youre gonna mess around with playing aces this way, it should be against an opponent capable of 3b-ing light. If youre in 1-2 a game where you cant get 90BBs more worth of action from KK-QQ after youve gotten 3B then you really need to find a better place to play cards.

Flop- Fist Pump call. Your hand is underrepped and hes doing this with all overpairs, a9 and sometimes bluffing with two unpaired high cards.

NH, but fwiw, even if a Q or K falls like say Qxx,Kxx, im taking the same line in most cases, but if say Kxx came down, i might be leaning towards check/call to keep JJ/QQ in his range so he doesn't fold

I've seen too many loosey 1/2 players flat the $35 raise after you just smooth here, so 4-bet iso plz.

First of all: If you put him on KK or QQ pre why not 4bet him right away? Why wait to see if a K or q Q doesn't flop and then shove? What is the logic?

With AA in your hand and if you get 3bet you must 4bet or shove depending how deep the stacks are. But in general with AA you want to have the lead (to put the last pf raise) Anything else is giving the other dude a free draw to his hand.

Che,

yeah I pretty much agree with this against a passive villain.

there's a place and a time to flat AA but not here, not now.

Very little to gain if you flat call with AA a 3bet against a passive villain. Once he 3bet you've got to 4bet or shove. In this hand after villain's 3bet of $45 the pot was $65 and the partial-one-sided SPR=190/65 or almost 3:1. This tells you he already bet 25% of effective stacks and is almost committed. You've got to 4bet and pull his head under the water now. This is valid ONLY our Corona dude want to play for money. (playing for fun..., Well, a different ball all together )
4bet with AA once the villain has 3bet us! That’s the discipline. It is what it is. It’s that, or we both better go do something else because all we have is what we going after. Always remember that.

Che,

Standard 4 bet shove ftw. I don't understand why you would want to flat UTG absent any other reads or history with villain.

This is our second hand at the table so we're totally unknown. Which means we get looked up a lot lighter just in case we're trying to start off our session by bluffing / establishing pushing the table around. Which makes this a really really easy 4bet shove. Even easier if we think there's a good chance he has KK, cuz that ain't ever folding.

HOC even has a small blurb regarding crazily shoving AA/KK preflop if we are dealt it in our first couple of hands at an unknown table (even against limpers, I think). Someone won't believe us.

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