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AA OOP vs Rock on KT9r AA OOP vs Rock on KT9r

04-19-2024 , 10:52 PM
1/3 NLHE 6 handed

V - Mildly profitable rock. Probably 4BB/hr. Fish pay him off. His raising range is all premiums. He loves to hero fold. Will fold KK face up to a 4bet from most players. Covers. CO.

H - V knows my game and knows Ive bluffed him before. 400$. BB.

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UTG straddles, V limps, H to 25 with A A, UTG folds, V calls, HU OOP.

Flop 55 - K T 9

H cbets 40, V calls

Turn 135 - 2

Hero? We have 335 back so we're getting to a commitment decision I think...
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04-20-2024 , 12:01 AM
100 turn, jam blank river. obv fold if he raises turn. if he has two pair, say nh and reload.

Last edited by NittyOldMan1; 04-20-2024 at 12:07 AM.
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04-20-2024 , 12:13 AM
No such thing as a commitment decision versus this guy IMO. Comes down to how much value we can get out of our hand, and if this guy ever makes a meaningful bet or raise we are absolutely dead and fold.

Flop bet might be a bit large. I feel a smaller size like $25-30 would get a more transparent response from this guy, where he's more likely to raise hands that have us beat.

Barreling off for the stack feels right but I'm definitely a bit worried about running into traps and/or hero folds. Going $60 on turn then betting all rivers 9 & under for 120-160 is kind of where I'm at with this hand.
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04-20-2024 , 11:33 AM
Probably just go 90 and its an easy fold to a raise. We wouldnt be committed by any means. If he calls again you should go small or check river. This guy will not call an all in with any 1 pair hands so youll only be value owning yourself by jamming river.
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04-20-2024 , 03:11 PM
Think I need more to go on than "V is a rock who knows I bluffed him before."

He limp-called from IP. Is he doing that with ATC, and calling the flop c-bet with any pair and any draw, or is he never getting to the turn with worse than 2P? Do we know how he plays Broadway combos from LP pre?

We bet pretty big on the flop, big enough that he didn't need to raise with 2P+. If we bet big here on the turn, we're probably not getting called by very many worse 1P hands. We have the nut flush blocker, so we don't need to be too concerned he's drawing to a flush, just two combos of KQss or KJss.

Think I might check here, and see what he does. If he checks back, we can block-bet or check-call on a brick river. If he bets small, obviously we can call, but we may need to turn AA into a bluff and rep the flush by betting a spade river. If he bets big, I'd seriously consider folding. I wouldn't expect him to blast off with worse 1P here.
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04-20-2024 , 06:46 PM
I went 105 and he folded, was wondering if he calls are we committed
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04-20-2024 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
I went 105 and he folded, was wondering if he calls are we committed
Probably, but we're also ahead of all his 1P hands, so we don't need to be too worried about it.

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04-21-2024 , 02:43 AM
Being committed to a pot is a somewhat overplayed concept IMO, especially live against opponents that play fairly face-up, and rarely go for thin value-bets or river bluffs.

For this thought experiment, let's say the river is effectively a blank, maybe an offsuit 8 thru 3. For whatever reason, we check, and villain goes all-in or makes a large meaningful bet. Nitty players like this guy are rarely trying for thin value with perhaps their KQ/KJ hand. They are very rarely turning some weak pair+gutter hand like J9/JT into a bluff. This big bet is a hand that our AA beats far less than the percentage we need to call. So if we do check the river and face a big bet, we should fold against most LLSNL villains, this guy included. Against a lot of passive players, check/call river will rarely if ever be the best decision, typically beat out by check/fold or bet/fold.

Our commitment to the hand is conditional, which is commonly the case in these games. You've likely had hands/scenarios where you're going to bet nearly every street for value barring a disastrous runout, but with the caveat that you will fold to a raise on any street. This is a fairly normal adjustment/exploit at low-stakes games.
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04-22-2024 , 12:31 PM
I'm fine with preflop.

SPR is 8 so no way I want to work towards commitment postflop against this guy, even more difficult OOP. So I'd either check the flop or bet way smaller.

As played, I'd try to correct our way too big flop bet by checking or perhaps a lol "same bet". ETA: Basically, I'd aim for way smaller bets or perhaps throw in a check somewhere mostly to make sure he doesn't fold worse that is likely drawing very slim (which he is very capable of doing) and meanwhile not bloat the pot when we're dead (where he can passively calldown for decent $$ in position).

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04-22-2024 , 01:05 PM
I would just bet around 65 ott; 100 into 135 is telling him you have at least AK. I would want his weaker kings and draws to still call, then you can jam the river and if he thinks you're always bluffing him he might feel more inclined to call it off.
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