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06-28-2015 , 12:55 PM
I have two black aces in a 1/2 game with about $225. One limper, I'm in mid position and raise to $18 (fairly standard in this game). One caller, in the small blind, with about $175. Big blind and limper fold. After the rake there's $36 in the pot.

Villain sat down 30 minutes ago and seems like a thinking player. He's folded a lot. He's about 30, asian, male.

Flop comes KKQ, two hearts.

He bet's out $30.

Should I fold?

Incorporating card removal effect ... There are only four combos of AK out there, only 1 combo of KK, ... 6 total combos of KTs+ ... I don't know if he calls with a hand like K9s or KJo. By this logic there are only like 11 (or 15, including KQo) combos that beat you. He could also have JTs or a hand like AQ.
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06-28-2015 , 01:51 PM
Please just fold before we get potcommitted.

You played the hand fine, but your AA are now a bluffcatcher.

Fold and move on. You can't win 'em all.

At best, call and see what happens OTT. Folding to another bet or checking behind.
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06-28-2015 , 03:08 PM
grunch: fold

i went back and forth on this. i could make a case for eveything, fold, raise. with this read, and lack of reads on this guys aggression with second pair or worse i'd probably just pick another spot and feel sorry for myself for finally getting AA and having to fold it.
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06-28-2015 , 04:19 PM
Call once. Your range is pretty protected and you don't have to worry about being bluffed on the turn very often.
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06-28-2015 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Call once. Your range is pretty protected and you don't have to worry about being bluffed on the turn very often.
+1
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06-28-2015 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
Call once. Your range is pretty protected and you don't have to worry about being bluffed on the turn very often.
+2
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06-28-2015 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
Please just fold before we get potcommitted.

You played the hand fine, but your AA are now a bluffcatcher.

Fold and move on. You can't win 'em all.

At best, call and see what happens OTT. Folding to another bet or checking behind.
Agreed.

Looking back over this situation I'd be much happier if I would've always folded.

Even if Villain would've checked the flop, I would have checked behind. It's real hard to get value from worse on this flop.
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06-28-2015 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by au4all
Agreed.

Looking back over this situation I'd be much happier if I would've always folded.

Even if Villain would've checked the flop, I would have checked behind. It's real hard to get value from worse on this flop.
Is this hindsight talking? I mean, yes your V is going to show up with a K a lot of the time here. But he'll also be betting AQ, a FD, etc. I just thinking folding to a single donk bet is too MUBsy.

Flat the flop and evaluate the turn.
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06-28-2015 , 05:20 PM
I think you are destroyed here against his range. He has a King or better here most of the time. He bet $30 into a $36 dollar pot. He wants to build a big pot. He doesn't have AQ. Maybe he has something like JT,AJ, but those combos are limited and even still, players at this level don't ram and jam with those hands, neither do they expect you to lay down. Just fold and don't tell anyone. Keep an eye on this guy. In a couple of hours you will be patting yourself on the back for saving yourself some money.
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06-28-2015 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nocturnal_Joker
let me guess, A of hearts on the turn gets Hero in trouble as V hits flush lol
yes, trouble, when we spike the boat. you're the greatest.
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06-28-2015 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by everydaygrind
yes, trouble, when we spike the boat. you're the greatest.
You are very kind person
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06-28-2015 , 10:10 PM
No chance I'm ever folding this flop. Folding AA just because someone donks out on a paired board is burning money. Call and evaluate turn.
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06-28-2015 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TTBH240
Is this hindsight talking? I mean, yes your V is going to show up with a K a lot of the time here. But he'll also be betting AQ, a FD, etc. I just thinking folding to a single donk bet is too MUBsy.

Flat the flop and evaluate the turn.
I should've read this post before making mine...you said it perfectly. +1.
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06-28-2015 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by au4all
Agreed.

Looking back over this situation I'd be much happier if I would've always folded.

Even if Villain would've checked the flop, I would have checked behind. It's real hard to get value from worse on this flop.
There is tons of value to be had on this flop if it had checked to us. Hearts, JT, Qx are all calling a flop bet.
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06-28-2015 , 11:27 PM
Without a strong read that this villain likes to donk big hands I'm never folding to 1 bet.
Most people are check calling or check raising with a K.
If board gets uglier and/or he keeps firing big I'll seriously consider folding the turn.
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06-30-2015 , 05:25 AM
call flop / evaluate turn
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06-30-2015 , 10:20 AM
Doing anything but calling and evaluating the turn is horrible. I can not believe people are advocating for folding to a single bet on this flop.

You kinda of freeze (paging the iceman) your opponent with any speculative hands once you flat if he is a thinking player as your range is soooooo strong. If he bets huge on a brick, I probably give it up.
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