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05-01-2024 , 02:16 PM
5/5, $1300 effective

Interesting hand here. This hand was played against a drunk aggressive player. He played very aggressively for the last 3 hours and won a few lucky hands with absolutely absurd cards. It's important to note that the casino closes, and this was the last hand played at the table, at 6 AM in the morning. In the last 30 minutes he sort of slowed down.

Drunk guy MP open to $20, Hero from BB 3bet to $100 A A Drunk guy calls

Flop($205) J 9 2

Hero bets $175, MP raises to $350, Hero - ???




I actually shoved there. I'll let you know the results later. But the tilting reg at the table who lost to this drunk player and his friend started complaining that I'm the worst player on the planet for shoving aces like that against a guy who slowed down in the last 20-30 minutes. They said I'm overplaying my AA for 200bb+ and should just call. That's why this hand kinda confused me.

Last edited by Bellezza; 05-01-2024 at 02:22 PM.
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05-01-2024 , 02:51 PM
Min-clicks from aggro guy who has slowed down, and is looking to book a win(?), are usually pretty nutted, though I don't play 5/5. Big flop bet on J92dd as the BB pf 3-bettor, BTW, which might be another reason V is clicking it back, he doesn't believe you connect well with this board enough for that big a cbet and is bluffing.

OTOH, a bigger raise from V knocks the SPR down to where calling'll be a trivial 1/2 pot shovefest turn or river. As it is, a call makes the pot 905 with 850 back.

We hold the Ad, which knocks out a bunch of combos that could play it this way. I hate folding this, getting 3:1 immediate odds. What did you perceive V's range as?
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05-01-2024 , 02:56 PM
You have to always take player and table dynamics into account when making decisions. If you think he's raising you with worse, jamming is fine but you know him more than me though since I only know him from one sentence.
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05-01-2024 , 03:14 PM
Yeah, that's the thing. 1-2 hours ago, that guy was raising on flops all the time with any pair and draws, absolutely a VIP fish. 1-2 hours ago, this guy would do that with KJ, JT, and even maybe A9 (no joking), any draw. But in the last 30 minutes, he slowed down and seems like he wants to go home with the money he won. The casino will close after this hand. He's like a sleeping drunk guy, not active anymore.
A really weird dynamic and situation overall.
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05-01-2024 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bellezza
Yeah, that's the thing. 1-2 hours ago, that guy was raising on flops all the time with any pair and draws, absolutely a VIP fish. 1-2 hours ago, this guy would do that with KJ, JT, and even maybe A9 (no joking), any draw. But in the last 30 minutes, he slowed down and seems like he wants to go home with the money he won. The casino will close after this hand. He's like a sleeping drunk guy, not active anymore.
A really weird dynamic and situation overall.
I would think a guy who plays like that isn't the least bit worried about going home with the money he won or he wouldn't be playing like that to begin with, but that's just me.

With starting stacks of 1300, if I'm calling the 750 min-raise otf I may as well just jam. He could be doing this with a set, but he could also be doing this with top or middle pair or a draw like he's done not too long ago. He could also have QQ.
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05-01-2024 , 04:33 PM
That's a tough one, because we want to go home with money whether he wants to or not, but of course, he knows that. Total meta-game.

I either fold or shove the flop, but it'd be nice to have some live read/tell.

Almost the exact same thing happened to my husband once. Complete maniac at the table. My husband had taken a ton from him and was racking up to leave when he looks down at AA. Raise/re-raise pre and they gii on a T-high flop. V has TT. Oops. At least my husband was up a ton, but it took a big chunk of it
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05-01-2024 , 04:43 PM
Call and give him rope. He might have a big hand, he might have nothing. If he has nothing betting will make him fold. If he has a big hand, you just value own yourself.

The thing here isn't what should I do in this hand. The thing you need is what is my actual strategy, given my bankroll and time at the table, on playing a drug aggressive player.
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05-01-2024 , 05:28 PM
He tanks for 10 mins and folded J9! This hand absolutely blew my mind. Just a few hours ago, this guy was having fun, raising with all junk cards and getting lucky, and now he folds J9.

Should I really approach morning games differently? I mean, when you play all night against a fish who lost and a fish who won, those are basically two different people. The one who won might play tighter compared to his usual style because he just finished the game and wants to cash out and go to sleep. Only a desperate person puts all their money in with junk at 6 AM.
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05-01-2024 , 08:03 PM
It's not about approaching morning games differently since every situation is different it's more about you're opponent which you could see at any time 24/7.

You're friends are just being results oriented. It would be dumb to flat the flop with stacks so shallow (he also gets forced to call with all his draws). He played it more than horrible, but don't let it make you think that you're the one who played it bad.
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05-01-2024 , 09:32 PM
Call
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05-02-2024 , 12:18 PM
Check-call flop OOP against this guy. Play defensively when his range could be any two.

Not sure I can wrap my head around his fold, unless he was falling down drunk.

I once tried to drink an entire keg by myself, passed out, and pissed the bed. I might have folded J9 here if I was that drunk again.

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05-02-2024 , 05:44 PM
Really, bizarre fold by villain, as you are totally representing QQ+, which he has crushed.
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05-02-2024 , 08:19 PM
If hero's been very tight or a known nitty player who always has the nuts at showdown he might think they're only doing that with a set, so that would be the only reason pretty much why the guy folded. He just wanted to save money to drink eat and party for the rest of the night since the casinos closed after the hand.
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05-02-2024 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
If hero's been very tight or a known nitty player who always has the nuts at showdown he might think they're only doing that with a set, so that would be the only reason pretty much why the guy folded. He just wanted to save money to drink eat and party for the rest of the night since the casinos closed after the hand.
Is the minclick then indicative of a, "Are you sure!?", bet from a V high in his range, but not especially nutted? I keep seeing it from (admittedly 1-2 players) as similar to a cat rolling over and showing its belly. "C'mon, touch it. It's sooooft."

I thought of J9s, and scoped it beforehand. We're only a 71/29 dog. So we 'could' call, though with the soulread, jamming was better.
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