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Old 09-20-2021, 04:15 PM   #1
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AA 3bet vs tight player

1/3 Bellagio, eight handed

V, CO, ~$300: 30s WG, seems pretty tight. Haven’t really seen him play any hands. Quiet, reading a book about crypto.

BTN, covers: my husband. He’s been playing very aggressively. Almost never limps in, raises in position, bets when checked to. This tight semi-passive table is a little fed up.

Hero, SB, $450: 53-year-old woman. Playing much tighter than my husband, but looser and more aggressive than the rest of the table. Husband and I have been in a few pots together, but we always show – at least I do. I have 3bet him a couple of times. Always good hands on my end. You never know what he’s going to show up with, although he does not raise w/ any two. I know this, but not sure the table does.

MP limps, V limps, BTN raises to $20, Hero 3bets to $60 w/ AdAh, MP folds, V flats, BTN flats.

Flop ($175): Ks5h2s

Hero bets $100, V flats, BTN folds. I was a little shocked at the flat. He’s been pretty tight, so I actually put him on AK or a flush draw, but the Ks is out there, so it would have to be AsQs. In the back of my mind I guess he could have KK, but I don’t think he’d limp/call pre, although I’ve seen worse.

Turn ($375): Ks5h2s Js

Not a great card. V has ~$140 left. Hero? x/f, x/c, bet?
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Old 09-20-2021, 04:27 PM   #2
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

I like our 3bet sizing (offering poor 8:1 setmining odds to the hubby). If other guy comes along for lol 1/5th of his stack, he gets my stack postflop if he outflops me.

With an SPR of lol 1.4 against the other guy, I might just open ship. It's going to be difficult to fold TP (that he just called two to the face preflop) to one bet, no one folds a draw on the flop, unlikely anything else is continuing anyways, and prevents craptastic spots (like the one we're in on the turn), so lets just do this now.

Pretty stoopid turn card. But with just a 1/3 PSB left, I think I'm just going with it.

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Old 09-20-2021, 04:31 PM   #3
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

I guess it's x/c. V nearly gets the right price to call H with his naked As/X hands, so I think we have minimal FE here. You get a good price to catch his bluffs. His made hands are betting obviously.
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Old 09-20-2021, 07:55 PM   #4
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

Calling the flop before the BTN, should be with a tighter range. He has 55/22/K5s/A-high FD.

I'd X. Can't find enough bluffs off the top of my head, so wouldn't rule out a X/F.

Pre - imho, sizing is small with $34 of dead $, and being OOP.
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Old 09-20-2021, 11:20 PM   #5
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

Js isn't that bad, it just brings in one additional combo that beats you of AsQs. You still beat 6 combos of AK. Doubt he has 55/22 given preflop, and if he did call off 1/5 of his stack pre hoping to hit a set, 'grats to him I guess...he deserves the double-up. Doubt he has KK given preflop, but I've seen stranger things. If you're beat, the most likely hand is KK IMO, second to AsQs and the unlikely smaller sets.

Can't fold if you check and he all-ins... he might have AsKx and just go with it on the turn. I would just all-in yourself on turn for the remaining small amount left in your stack. You're committed, V is committed. You know that, V knows that. If you all-in he's gonna call with AK cause he thinks you might have AK yourself (even if he regards you as a nit due to stereotypes, he ain't folding AK here for a 1/3 PSB).

Nitpick: Pre sizing is a bit small. I'd prefer 3.5x from OOP, and 3x from IP. Then add a little bit extra to account for the 2 limpers (1BB per limper, so add $6 to the 3.5x, bringing the total to ~$75).

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Old Yesterday, 12:47 AM   #6
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

Ship the turn. V should call with 100% but might fold a naked spade which would be a good outcome.
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

Pre was pretty big for this table. I actually didn't expect any callers, except may BTN.

From reading the replies, it seems I was thinking correctly at the table. I x/c his all in, and I expected to see AK or spades. He had 22. LOL. I think he was just fed up pre-flop and tired of folding. Turns out he was very tight but did pay off a few times.

I was not sure if this was a c/f vs. a tight player, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
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Old Yesterday, 08:03 PM   #8
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Re: AA 3bet vs tight player

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Pre was pretty big for this table. I actually didn't expect any callers, except may BTN.

From reading the replies, it seems I was thinking correctly at the table. I x/c his all in, and I expected to see AK or spades. He had 22. LOL. I think he was just fed up pre-flop and tired of folding. Turns out he was very tight but did pay off a few times.

I was not sure if this was a c/f vs. a tight player, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
Not surprised, nevertheless AA at or near the bottom of our calling range for 100 bbs eff. Can't blame you.
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