hi guys,

played this hand yesterday in a private 2/4 game in germany:

we got A6hh in the co 300€ deep
utg +1, mp1 and mp2 limp, (they all have between 200-300€)

my first question is, if we want to limp this hand here or if we want to openraise. At the moment i tend to raise these spots to like 24€, because i like winning the pot sometimes preflop or playing against 1 or 2 villians postflop in position.
But i have to say that i dont know if thats the best approach for these situations. Lately i saw myself very often in tought postflop situations for my whole stack after doing this. I think one reason for this is that the opponents in these games are not folding as much as i suggest them to fold. So i end up playing a big part of my range multiway in a big pot. Another reason is the stacksize. I dont know how the stacksize should affect my strategy here. But my feeling is, that i should start limping a big part of my range here and start to get aggressive once i hit a very good flop/turn/river. Ofc. on the one hand I cant win the hand preflop this way and i wont win the hand postflop with a simple cbet in a 2 or 3 way pot. But on the other hand I dont really put myself into tought situations postflop and it should be +ev aswell.
So i would be happy to hear how u guys construct your ranges here, (limping and raising) depending on the villians and the stacksizes.

I decided to raise to 22€ in this spot and mp1 called me. I cover him and he got 220€ before we start the hand.

flop comes 345 with two clubs. He checks and i decide to cbet for 22€. He raises to 60€ now. He is unknown and we play a pretty fishy game with a lot of southener guys, if u know what i mean. So i think he can have some random bluffs here, trying to take down the pot otf. So i decided to go all in for 195€.
So thats one of the tought spots for me postflop i was talking about. I feel pretty unconfortable here. I know showing ai is def. -ev if he is never bluffing this spot and we dont have any foldequity. Folding shouldnt be an option here on the flop to this sizing. Calling seems to be a good option to me aswell. I guess he wont continue his bluffs (if he got some) on the turn there and he will continue his value part most likely. So if he bets the turn and i didnt hit, i got an easy fold.

Really interested in your thoughts here.
If you got any tips for me posting a hand or describing a situation a litte better here I would appreciate that too. This is my first post here

Thx

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General strat depends on game dynamics, but I find that in the average Live Low Stakes game, most villains are loose and passive. Their most common mistake is calling too much, so making moves that depend on fold equity is generally lighting money on fire.

If effective stacks were lower (20-40BBs), I'd probably just fold A6s, even to limps. If they were really low (<20BBs) or really high (>150BBs) I'd raise it. In the game you describe, I'd overlimp and look to hit a monster and value bet it to death, and occasionally steal orphaned pots in position. I would not get exited about hitting TPNK.

As for this particular hand, pure spew, imo. Almost no-one in LLSNL has a check-raise/fold range, and even most of his semi-bluffs have more equity than you do with your naked SD.

A6s a trap hand. It looks good, but often ends up either making too weak or too strong a hand. TP hands generally are going to lose if someone calls you down through the river. A flush just isn't going to be paid off.

Unless I was certain that I could push the villain off his hand pf or on the flop, you're better off at this stage of your game to just fold it.

Thank you very much. I totally agree with the argumentation, that the most common mistake of the polpulation is calling too much. But I didnt really realise till yet, that making moves based on fold equity are literally burining money knowing that. This kinda opened my eyes to change my general strategy here.

I also like folding my hand here pre depending on the players involved. The rake in these games is pretty high (5% uncapped). So I guess it's no shame to fold a litte bit more.

Yeah, with that rake structure I'd be playing only solid hands and always coming in for a raise unless really deep. Brutal for rake to be uncapped, and makes small-medium pots somewhat more valuable in comparison.