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11-25-2021 , 12:09 AM
Pre-flop

Co not too tight, not too lag, has been Vpipping about 30% with mixes of limps and opens (350) opens 12

Hero button covers both, A4dd calls

Sb, decent player, above average for sure, but not top top, mid 20s, Sb (440) squeezes 51, co folds, hero tank calls to smaller squeeze size

Flop(117)
Qd6dJs
Sb 75 hero call

Turn 10c (267)
Sb 300 max bet with ~40 behind
Hero tank fold

My main questions for this hand:
What would a reasonable double flat range be vs a smaller 3b! with dead Co money?

88–TT A4, A5, AJ, AT suited, KQs?

Am I allowed to have a double flat range versus a 150BB stack?

Close to bottom of double call preflop?

My main question is, are there any bluffs that give me more that would me over the 35ish% equity I need? Most hands that he could have looks like I have 23-27%

Last edited by Gor24do; 11-25-2021 at 12:35 AM.
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11-25-2021 , 12:18 PM
Steaks? I'm going to assume 1/3 NL due to sizing and stacks.

I could get behind a preflop 3bet to a CO open. But I'm also cool with just seeing a flop and attempting to steal postlop (especially if it ends up HU). Although if SB is squeezing a lot then we might have to lean to a 3bet.

Not sure how this is considered a small 3bet size, its 3x + caller + a little more. Yeah, we're in position, but we're also up against a competent player with a weak hand and putting in > 10% of our stack, which is pretty meh.

I guess we can't flop the nut flush draw + over and fold. Against a typical 3betting range, we could easily have not have nearly as many as outs as we think we do / FE, so I think I'm cool with just flatting.

Pretty trivial fold to the turn sizing with ~nothing left behind, imo.

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11-25-2021 , 01:01 PM
Is that pre flop 3bet exactly pot? Looks like you're getting 2:1 on a call having to put $39 into $78 (if I didn't mess up the math). If that's considered a small 3bet, we might have to adjust our overall strategy.

"hero tank calls". I would try not to tank-call pre flop to anything that's not super unusual or all-in. Usually I'm not too worried about giving away tells at low stakes, but in this case there are only a couple options:
1. you tank with everything when 3bet which slows the game down for everyone
2. you tank when you have a decision and act fast if you don't. That way villain gets a pretty good idea what you have
3. you tank with everything that's not an easy fold. Not as bad as the other options but still gives away how often you call open raises with relatively weak hands

Honestly I just fold to the 3bet. Postflop looks relatively trivial to me. We can't fold the flop and can't call the turn.
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11-26-2021 , 01:41 PM
Fold preflop. A-rag is a hand to give up to a reraise almost always. If you catch an ace on the flop you still have no idea where you stand and SPR is going to be < 4 on the flop so you can't fish for a favorable flop.

If villain is really squeezing that often then shove over top at some point but there are better hands for doing that.

As for a flatting range in general, not really. The small SPR problem means that the only hands worth playing are good hands you flatted the first time. AK/AQ are worth playing but you might as well shove preflop, both to get any FE and to insure you see all 5 cards. So TT+ is really it and even then you should be shoving those hands sometimes. It isn't the 150BB stack that is really the problem here, it's that he has committed a good chunk of his stack on the raise and made it enough that the dead money in the pot doesn't matter much.
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11-27-2021 , 01:16 PM
Not understanding the logic to call preflop, but I assume you think he is squeezing light at times, in which case the flop seems like a clear raise.
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11-29-2021 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Not understanding the logic to call preflop, but I assume you think he is squeezing light at times, in which case the flop seems like a clear raise.
Agreed w/ raising flop - competent villain has a looser range in this squeeze play. You're able to get pushed off your equity to turn bets, so I'd play this flop more aggressively with my draws (to cash in on fold equity + to maintain the equity of our hand in the case villain chooses to stack off)
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