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Originally Posted by PokahBlows
Going beyond ABC fit or Fold/Cbet only made hands
Since this post is talking about ABCD poker I want to add something I been working on in my game.
Two main concerns that abc poker can't exploit. Regs/decent players peeling light on the flop and folding on the turn. When regs/bad tags cbet almost 80% but always check turn.
When I'm the preflop aggressor I used to always bet flop and check turn. Now I see boards that I would almost never bluff at/equity chase backdoor draws.
Backdoor draws:
Now when postflop I'm looking for key cards to my hand. Before I just c/f, but I'm getting past that, I cbet bluff backdoor draws and when I gain equity or put my opponent on a weak range I double barrel.
Calling with draws/backdoor draws. Low stakes players don't bet size well. If I see weak betsizing I'm peeling backdoor draws or chasing my draw, if they check turn I'm betting, usually if they bet turn they bet weak giving you odds to hit your flush/bluff river.
Again this is all done with weak betsizing and low aggression from weak players which is pretty much everyone.
Part A I've seen a lot. As a rule, I don't cbet complete air. I need a little something, unless it's a crazy dry flop. I two barrel when I pick up one of my more favorable outs. When I fire the 2nd barrel, I win the pot an inordinate amount of the time....it's almost criminal. I think modern "fish" expect us to cbet a flop and call to see what we are going to do. Not floating, per se, but just knowing we will give up a lot on turns. Decent bets finally convince them we have something strong. Anyone else noticing this?
Part B I need to do a lot more. I have been giving up on tons of flops just assuming they lead out when they hit, and I don't enjoy drawing to 6 outers. However, with the same conditions as above, I maybe should start peeling a little myself against the right villains...just to see when/if they give up and take a few pots from them, too. God forbid my bd draw hits the turn and I actually pick up something. I see the small turn bets a lot, too. Something like $25 on the flop turns to $30-$35 on the turn. If we are sufficiently deep, this lays odds like a well-fed chicken.