V1 is a decent tight reg, too passive pre. V2 is best player at the table, very capable of attacking in good spots. 2-3 NL all 3 of us have 1K eff.

Hero in btn with 76ss.

Pre: Folds to hero opens 10, V1 in sb and V2 in bb call

Flop (30) : 873ddc
2 checks hero

I think a small bet to deny equity to overcards - button vs blinds you'll probably see people turn up with all sorts of offsuit rubbish. Most of the overpairs would have 3bet. Sure you are going to have to be cautious this deep but there are turn cards which improve you (and so you can just about cling on against a modest sized check-raise). Checking is probably alright as well on this board which probably just about favours the blinds, is multiway, and you have a modest hand

Id bet 20 or 25 and be happy to hopefully just take it down.

I would expect, when I see that flop, that at least one or maybe both will call a cbet so this isn't a flop that's gonna get them both to fold with one bullet. We even have SDV so we can check back the river if someone calls (and if we even decided to bet the turn). I would just bet 15 or 20 instead of checking then deciding whether to call a big turn bet with just a bluff catcher.

Easy bet. Ban OP

Definitely betting.

What size I'll want to bet depends on recent game flow and our reads, vis-a-vis how likely either V is to check raise on this texture and how comfortable we'll be playing the turn after we give up the betting lead, versus how comfortable we'll be continuing with the betting lead if we don't improve on 2nd pair.

I think I lean betting bigger here, because we don't have any BDFD and our kicker kinda sucks. If we spike a 6, we're losing to T9. We're losing to JT when we pick up an OESD on a 9. The upside is that another 7 or a 5 doesn't look like it hits our range, and might lead V to get out of line. I wouldn't hate a 4 or a 2, and we can barrel on an A or K.

So, I think we bet 2/3 pot, barrel turn on any off suit A, K, 7, 5, 4 or 2 , and just take our equity by checking back most if not all other turn cards. If we check back turn and spike a 7 on the river, we blast off. A 6 on the river and we just call or check back. Otherwise, we're folding river if V bets into us and we haven't improved, unless he bets super small.

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Initial thought is that BTN vs. BB we are supposed to check 2nd pair a lot here, and BB is the best player and SB is in there too.
There are a lot of draws on the flop, so can easily be x/r by worse.
Yes, we often have the best hand now ... but not so much by the river, so if we bet we really want two folds. Having to fold to raises now also leans check, so maybe just check and either call a single bet on the turn or bet if checked to again.


Checked GTO wiz and BTN plays 7s6s vs. just BB as:
4% of the time 75% pot
16% of the time 50% pot
9% of the time 33% pot
70% of the time check.

Why wouldn't you bet the flop?

I think part of the reason I prefer a bet here is that we aren't heads up.

Not wanting to sound as if I'm dismissing the input of our robot friends, but it's live against humans. It's hard to make a pair. We could have all the over-pairs to the board, as well as top 2, and all the sets, I'd think, when we open from the BTN. We could also have all the draws.

I want to bet and deny equity from both. I'm fine with it if they both fold. I at least want to get HU. If we bet and get raised, so be it.

I feel like two competent opponents are mostly going to over-fold when we c-bet this flop, especially big, when they're OOP. But if we check, one or the other is going to donk turn a lot, and we're not going to love a lot of turn cards.

On the other hand, if both V's check to us again, and then we bet on a disconnected high or low brick, it seems like we'll get fewer folds, and our opponents are going to show up with more marginal value that just isn't buying the story we're selling.

I like seeing that the solver prefers a 1/2 pot bet when it's not checking. This doesn't seem like a spot where a >2/3 pot bet accomplishes much more than a ~1/2 pot bet.

If you are betting this then what are you checking? Checking is basically giving up on that case. So check this to protect your range. Also you are Vs two ppl so maybe look for a blank turn to then bet or call down. If you bet and get raised you have to fold too

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I'd check with some decent draws that don't want to get check-raised, or super-strong hands that don't need any protection, and want to let opponents catch up. So, I'd check 65s here, and 88/77 if the board was rainbow. We can also check un-paired over-cards that can turn a strong TP, and hands like A2dd-A5dd and A9dd that can pick up equity with a BDSD on the turn.

How many blank turn cards are there? Anything from a 4 to a J possibly completes a straight draw. Any diamond completes a flush draw. Any card higher than 7 possibly gives our opponents a better pair. Any card under a 7 might make a lower PP a set. There really aren't any real bricks that will increase our confidence in our hand if one of our opponents leads out, or happens to check-call.

If we bet 1/3 pot and get raised, we don't necessarily have to fold. We're $1k effective here, and there's $30 in the pot. We're IP, so we can sometimes call and play some poker on the turn.

What would our opponents even be raising here on the flop, rather than donk-leading or check-raising turn? These guys aren't flatting with big PP's. Maybe V1 flats 88/77 in the SB, but 88 is just three combos, and 77 is just one combo. Maybe V2 in BB flats 87s, but that's just two combos. Maybe BB check-raises T9dd or 65dd, but again, that's just two combos.

So there are maybe eight combos either V could have that might check-raise flop, and V2 in BB probably just check-calls flop with half of those, especially if V1 folds to our c-bet.

Conversely, when good opponents flat call from the blinds, they're going to have a lot of weak hands that completely missed this flop, and will just fold to a c-bet.

I am 100% betting here. We might have the best hand, and regardless, they think we have the best hand. I'm fine with two folds (prefer it) and I'm fine with a call. If V2 raises, we have to think about it, but I probably call and see a turn.