Buddy wants me to gambol for him. I’m a winning player at both 2/5 and 5/10. he Wants me to see how much I can make him w otb an initial $750. Kind of like a 750 to 10k challenge.

The only two options are buy in at 75bb or 150bb



5/10 (max buyin is 2500)I can nit up and jam over 3 bets to take down decent pots (in comparison to 2/5) uncontested (lots of light 3 betting in this room)

2/5 (max is 800) I’d have more. A cushion to actually play.

In my room. The 2/5 is actually tougher overall than 5/10 i have over 500 hours in both games

Thoughts?


I am 50/50 on which to do. both are a risk since its one bullet. I feel there a benefits and cons to both approaches...

If you are playing one buy in I think choosing the easier game is more important than choosing to have a deeper stack. How often are you going broke with $750 in either game without being able to reload?

I would just tell your friend he's probably got a better chance of doubling up by putting it all on player or banker (probably a much better chance).

Its a pretty bad sign that you have over 500 hrs in both games and are asking the forum for advice.

If 5/10 is the better game, i don't see why you wouldn't want to play it.

Maybe 2/5 has a lower risk of ruin but what are you getting out of winning this?

Because you may be wasting time with this bet instead of just grinding out a better win rate in your normal game of choice and normal choice of buyin.

Seems like you aren't telling us some important info.


Another option is letting your friend buy a % of your action from a larger buy-in in the 5-10 game, so you can play the better game in a more profitable and/or consistent manner.

what split did you negotiate with your "buddy" for this one bullet shot?

What’s the % of this deal? And how does it work? Once you get to 10k you get to cashout? Or is this a one session kind of thing?

I always get people at my work asking me if they give me 500$ or wtver if i can spin it for them, which i think is the dumbest thing because they have zero understanding of poker and treat it as some slot machine.

50/50. He sees my history of playing and just wants a piece of the action. (Like you said. Wants me to spin it up) I told him I’d play here and there for him. And on my own the other times. I can cash out my profit after each session we do this.

Don’t see why it’s a bad sign. I’m just asking opinions. I’ve never been in this position before and want to help him out. I always buy in for the max. And have multiple billets on hand. So I figured I’d see what this place says. Lol. Didn’t think I’d be flamed for it.

This is silly. If you take $750 to a 2/5 or 5/10 game you are extremely likely to go bust very early on. This would be a terrible investment from your friend.

This makes zero sense to do this to, "help him out." If you are a winning player, buying in short only hurts your profit. Are you going to share in the profit? Give it all to him? Either way, it's not worth it to you as it's uncompensated/undercompensated labor on your part.

The only time an arrangement like this would make sense is if someone was staking you or buying a piece of your action to allow you to play in a game you don't feel adequately rolled for. Therefore, you can profit more than you normally would and the person backing you can profit as well. It is mutually beneficial. It makes economic sense. The situation you are describing does not make economic sense and I cannot imagine this being a good thing for you or your friend.

So 0 risk for you, 50/50 split, he gives you 750$ to risk each session. That sounds like a horrendous deal for him and a great deal for you. If he is your actual friend i would refuse the deal.

If you dont really care about the dude then by all means milk him as much as you can before he realizes what a horrible deal this is for him. I would just go on 5/10 and try to score big this way he keeps you for awhile, 2/5 you might lose small but win small too so he might get bored after one or 2 sessions.

Ehh, didn't exactly flame you, just pointing out there are some red flags here.

Like Mlark said, its not clear that this arrangement would actually be financially beneficial to your friend, even if you are a winning player.

Otherwise he is risking $750 while you are sort-of freerolling him on the profits but none of the potential loss. And if you somehow aren't free-rolling him you are basically doing him a favor, despite the complexity of the terms.

We really don't know enough about you or your friends motivations and situation to get too specific on recommendations. Maybe your friend is an action junkie, doesn't care if its -ev bet and its not a meaningful amount of money - whatever that wouldn't be a big deal.

But the situation sounds and smells ill-advised, there are way too many poker players who have hurt the game's reputation through shady, scummy and irresponsible behaviors for us to write you a blank pass.

That's not to say you are being a bad actor or don't value your friend - but taking his $750 could still be a bad idea.

Oh and don't forget - that if your friend thinks running 750 up to 10k in a single session is realistic, he doesn't understand poker at all - its not an informed gamble.



Its ok to tell your friend: "Look i would be happy to have you to stake me regularly but it doesn't make sense for you to make this decision on a one-bullet sample size." And provide him with more information and/or options to make his decision.

If you are looking for a long-term backing relationship, its better to start with good communication. But also - it's generally not a great idea for someone who doesn't understand poker to back you, especially without seeing documented win rates and/or understanding variance.

this deal favors the player so much its comical

This makes sense He’s not a close friend by any means. And he doesn’t expect 750 into 10000. Just wants to sort of (in his terms take a shot investing $750 in me)

Idk maybe he has watched rounders too much and thinks the ki ish deal w Mikey is a real thing.

I tried to tell him we would be better off with a real stake and making it long term. If he were interested l


So yes it’s a free roll for me. And I told him one bullet can easily be lost. He said it’s ok. He also said he wants to press the money if there are any winnings. Soni can take my cut. And his half just add to the bankroll and run it up. He just doesn’t want to invest more than $750

It’s def an interesting prop. Lol. That’s why I turned to asking other poker players

In that case play the 2/5. Playing cash with 75 bigs is horrible.

does your buddy go to another school, we wouldnt know him?

Yeah his name is George Glass