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600NL yucky check raised river spot 170BB deep 600NL yucky check raised river spot 170BB deep

04-14-2011 , 07:27 PM
not too much data on villain. have 80 hands on him, hes running 27/23.

he started short, tripled up against me and another player all in pre, AK vs my JJ and other guy's TT a few hands ago. no history beside that.

dont think we beat too much beside random bluffs ,and maybe beside AK or ATcc, but guess he's barreling most of them OTT.

im running 20/19, not sure he noticed it..

easy fold OTR?

$6 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $621.05
SB: $650.50
BB: $600.00
UTG: $1,912.65
UTG+1: $669.82
MP: $965.10
Hero (MP+1): $1,074.00
CO: $600.00

SB posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero has 2 2

UTG raises to $18.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $18.00, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($45.00, 2 players) 5 2 Q
UTG bets $30.00, Hero calls $30.00

Turn: ($105.00, 2 players) J
UTG checks, Hero bets $69.00, UTG calls $69.00

River: ($243.00, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets $199.00, UTG raises to $1,795.65 and is all-in,
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04-14-2011 , 07:55 PM
I don't see how you can fold
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04-14-2011 , 08:48 PM
super easy call
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04-14-2011 , 09:46 PM
I snap this so fast, even though I know I'm going to lose a decent % of the time. but go ahead and fold if you don't like money.
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04-14-2011 , 10:26 PM
no one c/cs a set on this turn so yea call
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04-14-2011 , 11:25 PM
with board pairing maybe V thinks AA is now the nuts, maybe looking to get paid off by QJ? AQ?
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04-15-2011 , 01:55 AM
do u realt think villain might be pushing AA/KK here for value?
dont u think this be JJ/QQ more often than not?
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04-15-2011 , 02:00 AM
sick tarp by jj for sure
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04-15-2011 , 04:20 AM
Never folding; if he has you beat you have to go broke here IMO.
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04-15-2011 , 04:43 AM
Yo he's got quads.
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04-15-2011 , 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranil
do u realt think villain might be pushing AA/KK here for value?
dont u think this be JJ/QQ more often than not?
if he thinks you 3bet QQ and JJ some portion of the time, and your range is more likely to be QJ, KQ, AQ it's not a terrible plan. probably not a good one either.
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04-15-2011 , 03:47 PM
I also find it hard to believe that he takes this line with QQ/JJ. 55 would be a bit more reasonable and an actual possibility. Since he started short and is now that deep I would suspect that he might be a little scared which is another argument for him betting QQ/JJ because of the draws and kind of pot controlling 55 on the turn. But thats just one hand.

On the other hand he could also make a mistake on the opposite site and overplay a hand you have beat (stubborn 5, QJ, AA, ...) or even bluffing with a missed draw due to possible inexperience with that stack size. Although he probably does not hold these hands often I think if you combine all of them it is enough of the time to make a rivercall reasonable. His likely value range is just so small.
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04-18-2011 , 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrandMelon
no one c/cs a set on this turn so yea call
This.
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04-18-2011 , 03:03 PM
This is an easy call, for sure. Are we to believe that villain really c/ced a set here only to c/r the river, which we check behind a good percentage of the time?

I mean, if he has QQ/JJ, why not just c/r the turn?
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04-19-2011 , 03:24 PM
would be kinda cool if villain had QJ and thought "hmm there is one combo each of QQ/JJ/55 and 22 is in a really ****ty spot when I CRAI here"
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04-19-2011 , 03:27 PM
Results: OP folded?
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04-20-2011 , 01:36 PM
Merge - $6 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $621.05
SB: $650.50
BB: $600.00
UTG: $1,912.65
UTG+1: $669.82
MP: $965.10
Hero (MP+1): $1,074.00
CO: $600.00

SB posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero has 2 2

UTG raises to $18.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $18.00, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($45.00, 2 players) 5 2 Q
UTG bets $30.00, Hero calls $30.00

Turn: ($105.00, 2 players) J
UTG checks, Hero bets $69.00, UTG calls $69.00

River: ($243.00, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets $199.00, UTG raises to $1,795.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $758.00 and is all-in

UTG shows Q Q (Full House, Queens full of Fives) (PreFlop 82%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Fives) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
UTG wins $0.00
UTG wins $2,153.50


took my all time bank before calling..

dont know guys, maybe im a bit result oriented, but think maybe i can find a fold here..
i think he never crai here with AA KK QJ because im prob snap folding AQ/KQ so hes only called by worse.
yee, seems wierd he will check/call QQ JJ OTT, but I dont think he wil c/r river that deep with a bluff when i showed so much strength.
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