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02-19-2009 , 10:57 AM
Villain was pretty fishy pf and post. This was one of a handful of overbet shoves he's done both pre and post flop. There were a few hands where he "squeezed" and by squeeze I mean shoved PF over a few callers.

On the turn, he snap-called my raise.

On the river, he disconnected, when he cameback he timebanked 20 seconds then shoved.

I think a fold here is probably best but tough to say. I don't have any reads as far as what he's shown down post flop wtih these overbets, but one of his random PF shoves was QQ.


Party Poker $600.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 43398
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BB: $939.70
Hero (UTG): $627.00
CO: $111.00
BTN: $600.00
SB: $731.50

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is UTG with A 8
Hero raises to $18, 3 folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) A K 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($39.00) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $30.00, Hero raises to $90, BB calls $60

River: ($219.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $540.00

HERO: ?!?!?!
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02-19-2009 , 11:13 AM
rethinking it, i'd say fold is better than a call
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02-19-2009 , 11:15 AM
wtf you play on party poker what a box
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02-19-2009 , 11:20 AM
i'd only call if I saw him in a similar spot without the nuts, but w/o history fold
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02-19-2009 , 11:28 AM
How do you think he plays AQ/A4/A5? In my experience a snap call and then a lead is usually a hand that a fish seems to like a lot but is way over valuing so, I Couldn't see myself folding here. But maybe a fold is best.
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02-19-2009 , 11:55 AM
If you've seen him do this several times in a session, I think I lean towards calling. With an unknown I'd say this was a fold, but since you've seen him do this a lot, I think you could be good the 40+% to call. But it's very close. When I just saw the hand, I thought easy fold. But the description made me lean towards calling - plus you get info.
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02-19-2009 , 12:24 PM
I expect to see Adxd or 67 here alot of the time. Fish do like to represent a huge hand sometimes by overbetting the pot though so I call these bets more than I should probably. However, I think I fold here almost all the time unless I have seen him do this before as stated earlier.
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02-19-2009 , 12:59 PM
It's flush. Obv he shoved because his ISP sucks and he can't disconnect-fold if he is all-in.
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02-19-2009 , 01:08 PM
at first i thought this was pretty close but the more i think about it the more i lean toward fold.

also raise a little more on turn vs a fish
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02-19-2009 , 01:43 PM
err nm
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02-19-2009 , 01:45 PM
I dont know
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02-19-2009 , 02:07 PM
Looks like he hit his draw, I fold

Also he doesn't go all-in, but bets just enough to put you all-in, which looks even stronger to me.
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02-19-2009 , 03:12 PM
def fold
ime this is rarely a bluff
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02-19-2009 , 03:48 PM
I fold too... more than 2x pot is too much to make an hero call
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02-19-2009 , 04:01 PM
Fold... he snap called because he didn't have to think about 3-betting the turn because he was on a draw.
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02-19-2009 , 09:16 PM
I think it's extremely likely that the river improved his hand and your equity against that range of hands is terrible
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02-19-2009 , 10:45 PM
He shoved because he doesn't want to risk disconnection I would think, which means he thinks he has the best hand, which means flush...
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02-20-2009 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
He shoved because he doesn't want to risk disconnection I would think
lol i'm using this line from now on thanks
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02-20-2009 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf
def fold
ime this is rarely a bluff
This. He has a flush or set always.
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02-20-2009 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
I think it's extremely likely that the river improved his hand and your equity against that range of hands is terrible
100% this
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