2/5 9 handed.

Table has action with 3 to 4 loose players.

Hero's image is pretty nitty and has only shown down a set of 4's on a q 8 4 flop with FD. H called $20 pre from small blind in a pot going 5 ways, then check shoves a near $400 stack after a short stack shoves for $100 and another player raises to $225. H scoops roughly $1k.

V1 20's white guy. not too aggressive but very loose pre and is ok portflop. Value bets made hands and haven't seen him bluffing. Saw a hand where he calls v2 raise pre with 32o, flop a pair of 3's, x/x, turn 3, x/b/r v2 calls. River 2 v1 shoves and v2 tank calls with QQ.

V2 30's white woman. Extremely laggy and will show up with almost any 2, will 3 bet a lot, make huge value raises and bluffs and will hero call a lot.

Otth $700 eff.

Hero limps 2 black 5's tug. V1 utg+1 bets $25, v2 calls, folds to hero who calls.

Flop $82
5h Qh As

Hero checks v1 bets $25, v2 calls, hero calls.

Both their ranges can be really wide here and I didn't want to blow them off any draws or fold out their bluffs as if they don't have qx they'll likely put me on a q here. Or should I be raising any way to get stacks in easier? I thought if the flush hits I could gii regardless.

Turn $157
6h

Hero checks, v1 bets $60, v2 calls, hero raises to $160.

Pretty sure turn raise should of been at least $200 into a $277 pot to make a river shove easier. $450 into $757 vs $490 into $637. Or do you check river to induce and re ship for max value? Obvious at this point that both v's have qx minimum and are unlikely to fold or check. If I'm up against 1 qx and 1 flush then I have 7 rivers that kill me or if I'm against 2 qx's then I have 9 rivers that kill me which starts to make my hand look relatively unsafe. Should I just ship the turn?

Going to be tough to limp/call 55 with a nitty image and make money. But F it, it's live low stakes, people don't pay attention. I call the raise.

Flop is a snap raise. Flatting is dumb.

You hit your hand, now try to get stacks in. If you're going to limp/call 55 UTG and not c/r this board. Fold pre

Done with rest of the hand.

raise the flop, why do you raise the turn after a 3rd heart and two other players in the hand. Are you trying to now rep a flush and get action? You only get called vs a flush.

As the others said, you definitely need to be raising the flop. I'm probably making it like $115.

I think everything about this hand (aside from pre-flop, which is how I play against opponents who don't pay attention) is backwards.

So assuming hero check raises flop and both players call, do you just go ahead and barrel the turn after the flush hits?

This hand is an abortion.

Flatting 25 on the flop 3-way into 82 is absurd.

x/r flop, flat turn. Can't give advice on the rest of the hand because it's so butchered.

Results don't matter imo because it's probably positive reinforcement of a bad play.

Don't like flatting flop either and why are you deciding to raise when the flush comes in? You have a huge hand and need to get money in Before that happens

Also in your first background hand. Shoving with bottom set after 2 all ins on a Q 8 4 board is never a sure thing. Not saying I am folding but many times you are running into 88 and QQ there. What else are they jamming with -absent draws? 2 pair doesn't seem very likely. Only hands you can beat are overpairs. Again not saying I'm folding but not shocked if it's set over set there.

Yeah I was afraid my nitty image would blow them off their draws (this is really dumb I know but that was my thought process during the hand) and couldn't be sure they already had a made hand. I suppose raising could also make my hand seem weaker as a way to protect it and offer more bluffing opportunities to the v's if they are not on a draw or reinforce that their flush would be good if they make it.

The hand before is a bloated pot which is probably going to miss most people anyway. I forgot to say but the original raiser raises the $100 jam so he can have sets kq/aq and overpairs plus the occasional nut flush draw or gutshot + flush draw j10/ 910. So it's not a sure thing but I doubt if I call the raise it'll check to the river either.

I would just lead flop for $75. An ace is never folding, you get a nice big bet in the pot and you don't have to give away the strength of your hand by check-raising. Also let's V2 potentially spew-raise.

Gonna need pics of V2 before we can give you any solid reads on the hand

I'd have folded pre. I think limping small pocket pairs in EP is throwing money away. It's too hard to extract value OOP, there is a risk of getting raised/3b off the hand (depends on the table how much this matters, if nobody every 3bets it's not too bad although you're still losing when you face an open raise from LP), and the possibility of being set over set, while slim, does affect our ev as well (we're never getting the good end of that either)

But mainly the first point.