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53ss picks up the OESFD, but V is betting big (-0) 53ss picks up the OESFD, but V is betting big (-0)

11-15-2023 , 04:48 PM
Game is $2-$100 spread-limit. Max you can raise is $100 over the previous bet.

Mid-afternoon weekday game with lots of limping. I have $700, Villain has $400. We played 2 hands in the last 30 minutes:

HAND HISTORY 1: Call a $6 raise w 75hh in SB. 6 ways. Flop QT3hh. Xxx, Villain donk bets $16, call call, I call, 4 ways to turn, 8x. X, Villain bets 35, fold fold I call. River 9x. I lead 75 and Villain folds

HAND HISTORY 2: I Raise QJo in CO to 12 only Villain in the $4 straddle calls. Flop Q73dd. Check I check. Turn 3x. He bets 20 I call. River 8 he bets 30 I call he has A2o

On to the

HAND: couple folds, a guy limps, I over-limp with 53ss, folds to SB (Villain) who raises to $14. BB folds, first limper calls, I call and close the action. To a flop:

FLOP: QsTs4h. (Pot: $40)

SB leads for $20, Limper calls, I call.

TURN: QsTs4h 2d (pot: $100, 3-ways)

SB leads for $80. Limper folds.

What do we like here?
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11-15-2023 , 06:55 PM
think you're going to find it hard to make pre work out but i gonna stop giving that feedback.

turn idk what else u can do except for call. raising doesn't really make any sense and he's repping a decently strong range betting into 2 ott. you have disguised outs on an Ace / 6 and you can potentially call if you river a pair if you wanted. i think the hardest part is deciding what to do on a brick river if he checks. the only argument i really see to raising is the a2 hand where it seems like he just shows aggression with anything but i think this is going to be a difficult board to ever make a pair fold given your line pre and what you would try to be representing - q2ss? t2ss? 42ss? and its going to be unclear what to do otr if he b/c the turn (most of his draws will either have high card value or be something like KJ that aren't going to fold anyways when its spread limit)
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11-15-2023 , 09:58 PM
Call. Rare low stakes villain who would 4/5 pot a flush draw so you probably have 15 live outs. Basically direct odds 1/3 all around. And you get paid often enough when you hit to offset the rare flush V has. Raising seems like a punt. Folding seems bad. Preflop seems bad.
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11-16-2023 , 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Game is $2-$100 spread-limit. Max you can raise is $100 over the previous bet.

Mid-afternoon weekday game with lots of limping. I have $700, Villain has $400. We played 2 hands in the last 30 minutes:

HAND HISTORY 1: Call a $6 raise w 75hh in SB. 6 ways. Flop QT3hh. Xxx, Villain donk bets $16, call call, I call, 4 ways to turn, 8x. X, Villain bets 35, fold fold I call. River 9x. I lead 75 and Villain folds

HAND HISTORY 2: I Raise QJo in CO to 12 only Villain in the $4 straddle calls. Flop Q73dd. Check I check. Turn 3x. He bets 20 I call. River 8 he bets 30 I call he has A2o

On to the

HAND: couple folds, a guy limps, I over-limp with 53ss, folds to SB (Villain) who raises to $14. BB folds, first limper calls, I call and close the action. To a flop:

FLOP: QsTs4h. (Pot: $40)

SB leads for $20, Limper calls, I call.

TURN: QsTs4h 2d (pot: $100, 3-ways)

SB leads for $80. Limper folds.

What do we like here?
What do WE like here? It's only you playing. That said, do you have $40 behind? $4000? If 40%, then it's easy math. If $4000, then there's a different answer.
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11-16-2023 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 009285832
What do WE like here? It's only you playing. That said, do you have $40 behind? $4000? If 40%, then it's easy math. If $4000, then there's a different answer.
Its spread limit. Its a $100 limit game at this point. If he has 1million behind the bet is still $100 or less.
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11-17-2023 , 02:23 AM
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11-18-2023 , 12:42 AM
I think you're getting the direct odds to call and if not the IO are fine. You won't get paid a ton when the obvious flush comes in but if you make it 1/3rd or even 1/4 on a spade you probably get paid off. Once in a great while he's bluffing into two people with a higher flush draw and you'll be put to death by the poker gods.
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11-18-2023 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by submersible
you can potentially call if you river a pair if you wanted.
Why would we call with a pair of fives OTR, blocking some flush combos that V has that missed when he bet three streets into 2 people?
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11-18-2023 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Why would we call with a pair of fives OTR, blocking some flush combos that V has that missed when he bet three streets into 2 people?
v bet a2o no pair / draw twice in the prior hand (which is important bc makes it likely he's going to over do aggression both with reasonable and unreasonable combos) and i still see j9,k9,kj, Aj, AK, 98, and some random spade draws as plausible bluffs that you dont block at all. the 3s and 5s are two of the least relevant flush blockers too
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11-18-2023 , 02:00 AM
RESULT
Quote:
TURN: QsTs4h 2d (pot: $100, 3-ways)

SB leads for $80. Limper folds.
I actually raised to $180, thinking there's a chance he has almost nothing and is just trying to bet us out of the pot (putting us both on weak hands or draws), or that he'd simply over-fold his top pair hands since my last bluff against him got through and everyone over-folds to max raises at this game.

He did not, though--he snap-called.

RIVER: QsTs4h2d 6c (pot: $460)

Plan B comes through! He checks, I bet the nuts and he snap-calls.

Agree with the commenters that calling the Turn (and folding to River bricks) was clearly the best play. I just think his line is value-heavy almost every time, and trying to bluff him off it was too ambitious. I should've just played poker, and known I was going to get at least $100 (and probably $200) if I hit the River.
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