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500nl kk in 3bet pot 200bb deep 500nl kk in 3bet pot 200bb deep

06-01-2012 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
nope, not true. usually if someone will call 1/2p they will easily call 3/4 pot, so you're missing value.

you need to figure out why you're betting before you do it,and then size according to objective

do you want to induce a shove?

do you want a call?

a fold?

a re raise??
You are not missing value if all the chips go in, which either size is setting up if you have 100BB starting stacks.

I generally start at 1/2 PSB and then modify based on stack size, villains tendencies, board texture, etc.
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06-01-2012 , 10:26 AM
in this case, villains tendency is that of someone who likes to call/play large pots, and the board is such that many many hands are calling.

so overbet and be happy
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06-01-2012 , 10:40 AM
EDIT: Reread hand and action

This deep you want to 3-bet more PF, I'd go to like 135 to 150

Turn is awful and the SPR is really awkward.

The real problem here is that OP didn't plan enough ahead to adjust his bet sizing to make the hand easier to play.

On the turn I soul read him and probably ship it.
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06-01-2012 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
in this case, villains tendency is that of someone who likes to call/play large pots, and the board is such that many many hands are calling.

so overbet and be happy
I was making a general reply to your general statement. Stacks are not 100BB, so the general case doesn't necessarily apply.
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06-01-2012 , 11:04 AM
Yeah fwiw I can't ship this turn. The spot is sick. I think b/f like 200 is best.
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06-01-2012 , 11:43 AM
either bet enough on flop to go all in on turn
or bet small enough that you can go all in on river
what you did is bad, because it is neither
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06-01-2012 , 11:57 AM
grunch

B/F $275 for value, or c/c a resonable bet with the intention of c/f'ing river.
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