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12-03-2018 , 02:32 PM

niceguy22

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Villain is a winning player. Sometimes bluffs pretty big and is capable of some big spews. Overbets a fair bit both bluffs and value when facing a somewhat capped range. He doesnt 3 bet an outrageous amount but has some 3bet bluffs.

600 deep.

Utg straddles to 10
Hero utg+1 raises to $30 with J

Folds to villain co who raises to 100
Folds to hero who calls

Flop ($220)
K

Hero checks, check

Turn ($220)
K

Hero checks, villain bets $250 (with 250 more behind), hero?

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12-03-2018 , 03:36 PM

Minatorr

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Can he 3b AQ at a high frequency? If yes, I am very very inclined to shove pre 60bb effective.

Ap turn probably just folding.

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12-03-2018 , 03:51 PM

niceguy22

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Originally Posted by Minatorr

Can he 3b AQ at a high frequency? If yes, I am very very inclined to shove pre 60bb effective.

Ap turn probably just folding.

Doubt it. Probably has TT-AA, AK making up about 80% of range with probably some suited connectors and suited aces making up the rest. Rly dont see him 3betting that often, especially with middling hands like AQ vs utg raise. Hes just not that aggressive pre

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12-03-2018 , 03:58 PM

jjjou812

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Fold. Villain, if winning player, probably doesnt pay you if you river the four card straight. I would not call a pot plus bet on turn with the two overs and 6-8-10 outs when he only has 250 behind with this wet of a board.

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12-03-2018 , 04:04 PM

mikko

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We need to bet turn, with range you have given. 80% value and 20% bluffs. Given you believe he uses poloriazed range.

I am betting $115 on turn. Folds out his 20% of his range and add in our equity and we have nice +EV bet.

As played. He priced us out of pot IMO. Not calling over bet here.

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12-03-2018 , 04:33 PM

niceguy22

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Originally Posted by mikko

Ya we really dont have many hands to bluff with here if we wanna be balanced so this would probably be one of them. Problem is if he jams with most of the 80%.

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12-03-2018 , 06:15 PM

samo

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From the CO and with a low 3-b frequency, I'd fold pretty easily. Flop crushes that range, which is why I wouldn't bet turn either. If he's bluffing, wp.

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12-03-2018 , 09:23 PM

Avaritia

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rip or fold pre. Only rip if he’s super capable or you’re on tilt or whatever

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12-03-2018 , 10:26 PM

hitchens97

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Why are we only raising to 30 with the straddle? Closer to 50 seems more like it.

As played. I think it's tough. I think nearly all of a traditional 3-bet range, bets flop given how dangerous it is, even top set. So I feel there's definitely bluffs in here, and I wouldn't be shocked to see something like A9o.

The trouble is if we call and hit, he likely does not put more money in, and if we call and miss, he's probably firing again if he's bluffing or if he slow played a set. I probably sigh fold.

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12-04-2018 , 01:44 PM

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Javanewt

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This is completely read-dependent at the table.

From here, sitting at my computer, I fold.

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12-05-2018 , 03:52 PM

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djevans

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Shove pre unless it's a nit - as played fold

Don't open to $50 - $30 is fine

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12-06-2018 , 03:39 AM

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4b to 165 and pretend you have AA

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