Deep stacked V (~$1250) is a "tricky" loose player. Very wide pre... basically will flat a 2! w/ Broadways including AK, 22-JJ, even QQ/KK with some frequency, all suited cards, maybe some unsuited connectors. Sometimes makes odd plays post flop, like floating when he shouldn't, betting too much or betting too little. Capable of bluffing flops and turns. Haven't seen a river bluff yet, but wouldn't rule those out completely.

Other V's newish to table. Seem like loose-passive recs. ~$550 eff.

Hero likely viewed as TAG to deepstacked V who'd been at the table longer. A few hands prior, all players saw Hero lose ~$600 on a pf AI to a set of jacks. Hero didn't show but truthfully announced KK. Might look like I'm tilting.


Hero opens 66 in UTG +1 to $25, UTG + 1 calls, V in UTG+2 calls, MP calls

$104

A65

Hero..?

65~

Check call isn't unreasonable either

Open raising 66 UTG+1 is a little dubious but can be fine on the right table.

Bet $70ish, you have to bet to not let random diamonds draw. If you get raised by the deep stack guy (is that 1250 effective) then flat.

you should be betting like $100 at minimum, and could even bet like $130. Betting 2/3rds pot on this texture is almost never right, youre better off with a split bet sizing of like 30% and 90%+. Should be calling nearly any raise from the deepstack and shipping over anyone else.

Ad is nice though, cuz the odds V has a flush is far lower without Ax combos.

why?

Yeah don't get that. Making huge bets seems like a good way of making the stuff we want value from fold. We need to get money off one pair aces hands.

50

Betting that much is so spewy, this is a 4way pot - bet that much and the absolute worse that would call you is a6

If V actually calls with all suited cards (per reads) then there are no card removal effects. Ad doesn't matter and he has 45 flushes in his range.

I don't think we should play to get something from opponents' aces. We're first to act into three people on a mono board. Putting chips in the middle is a strong move to start with. We're not getting much out of TP, even if there isn't a fourth diamond. If there a fourth diamond comes, we're not getting much from anyone that isn't ahead of us.

I think we should play to get a nice, big, fat pot from either V "outplaying" us with his creativity, or anyone having a diamond NFD, underset, or 2P.

Let's lead the pot. I don't much care if an ace folds (though sometimes we'll still get a call when they have a decent diamond).

If we bet small, we're actually giving a big diamond about the right odds to call. No diamond can pair the board, so there aren't any tainted outs from us. If a diamond hits, they can bet enough that we probably can't call for the boating (especially OOP). It's better to fold out a draw than give it the right odds to continue.

If they do have a diamond, especially with extra value, they'll still call the big lead.

I like to slow play when people can catch up to second-best hands, not to better hands.

$100 OTF, planning to commit if no 4th diamond comes.

meh. unless players flop a flush, or have a 2nd nut flush draw +, everyone plays these hands pretty timid.

I would donk out 45 and see what everyone does. You will be repping
AxK, so unless someone has the K in thier hand, or already has the flush, I would not expect much resistance.

baby flushes are going to push pretty hard on the flop, so for 550, depending on our read of V, we are either dumping it or shoving.