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Originally Posted by costanza_g
you cant have it both ways.....either they call down really light, so you can valuetown them with 1 pair. Or they fold alot when they miss, so you can open/cbet here and scoop the pot alot. They arent going to magically have the perfect continuing frequencys to make this a -EV open
Correct. These loose passive players (aka calling stations) have the big leak of calling too much. The adjustments you need to make are:
1) bluff less (or even never.)
2) tighten your preflop hand ranges, and expand your postflop betting range.
3) fold when they get aggressive (indicating a much stronger range than a bet from an average opponent.)
In late position, raising with J6 gets its value from our ability to pick up dead money with no showdown. Obviously, we don't have that capability against these particular opponents.
For the 1/6th of the time that we hit a jack, we have kicker problems and are going to lose a big pot when they call three streets with J7+. Furthermore, a majority of the time there will be overcard(s) on the board, and we're going to get called down by Q7 on a QJ8 board.
For the 5/6th of the time that we don't hit a Jack, we're essentially trying to bluff the unbluffable with Jack high. Bluffing calling stations is a surefire way to lose a ton of money quick in these live games.