I'm UTG +1 and I have KQ and I make it $20 to go. UTG +2/button/BB calls me.

UTG +2 literally just sat down and has $1K behind. I have him covered.

($85) K68 BB checks. I bet $80. UTG +2 calls and everyone else folds

($245) 5 I check and UTG +2 checks

($245) 2 I check and UTG +2 bets $300. Hero?

- I think c-bet sizing is a tad bit on the larger side. Although I see the reasoning for it.
- Turn I am checking
- River I am block betting/folding to a raise. AP, fold river.

I would snap fold in a heart beat and bet less otf

Feels Like a good spot to bet vs. Kx and midpairs. I'd go for half pot.

40% otf
X turn
40% riv, fold ap

I like everything up to the River. (Your Flop bet is perfectly fine, we want to bet big with our value hands on wet boards.) You’d have such an easier decision to make if you bet $120 on this River—then you could get value from his worse kings while folding to a raise!

As it is, you’re stuck guessing. I fold to an overbet without a Heart in my hand. I’m folding even with the Qh about half the time too, but almost 100% without it.

This hand is a pretty good example why KQo isn't a very good hand UTG full ring.

Unfortunately we don't have any information about UTG+2. If we know he's tight, we don't even really have a value bet here against him. With two players left to act, what hands would we expect for him to call here if the only worse made hands in his range are the the remaining combos of KJs? That leaves us with a couple of flush draws of which half-ish have an overcard to go with it.

As played the river is a clear fold against the overbet. What do we expect for him to turn into a bluff here, T9dd? If we think his preflop range includes enough weaker kings, we can bet small here to get calls from those.

I think villain could be bluffing. Your bet on the flop looks like you have a hand but you want everyone to fold and dont want anyone to draw.
Your check of the heart on the turn looks like you don’t have a flush.
Your check of the River confirms that you don’t have a flush and you just want to showdown your moderate made hand.
The overbet could just be designed to get you to lay down moderate 1 pair hands.

I don’t think he has a flush either because he checked the turn and a flush might not bet the River so big because he would actually want a call.

It’s either a bluff or a non flush made hand. And some of those made hands are going to be worse than yours. It’s too bad we have literally zero reads. Without any information to go on I guess we shrug fold, but I’d be tempted to look him up.

Kind of agree with the previous poster. Just will add that when someone is playing the very first hand they get dealt and they splash around and take a line that looks weird like this... in my experience it is much more likely that villain is a clueless fish than it is that they just happened to make the nuts (in this case any flush) in the first hand they were dealt. I wouldn't worry too much about trying to put him on a range or trying to follow a gto strategy here.

I call.

For the posters saying this is a call, why would he bet so much if he was just trying to take a stab at it then? It looks more like he's trying to make it look like a bluff to induce a call maybe?

Also, he called 25 pre in UTG+2 right after hero raised in UTG+1; and then he called 80 into 85 next to act on the flop...would AQhh check back the turn to induce a river call? How often do we see overbet bluffs otr from random players?

$20 pre, I believe, but regardless, I hear you. And also, I don't know if he 'literally just sat down' also means he just posted, but it doesn't matter.
I'm not saying you are wrong.
All I'm saying is he 'could' be bluffing and he 'could' have a worse made hand and I'd 'probably' shrug fold but I'd be 'tempted' to look him up.
That's a lot of equivocating, I know, but that's what poker is like, no?
That is really what poker decisions often feel like in real time.
I'm not sure what he has. None of us are.
He could also have a set of 8's and be annoyed that he didn't get enough action and now he is spazzing out and trying to make up for money he lost by not betting previous streets.
It is kind of rare that there is 1 absolute right answer in poker. My opinion.
A lot of these decisions depend on intuition and things like flow, tilt, reads, player type, game conditions, etc.
A lot of that is impossible to quantify in a game theory kind of way.

All I'm saying is that if you look at OP's action from the villain's perspective, it could look to him like a big bet might get a fold.

I hate flop sizing and bet turn again as played.

River seems pretty close, leaning call. Villain shouldn't be slow-playing 2p+ on turn and river is a brick. Could even be betting a worse k.

easy fold pre

why play rags UTG+1


as played you got what you wanted so why ????? things now
if this isn't what you wanted than as stated easy fold pre

I agree, of course he could have a bluff or a hand we beat there's no question about that, but what are the odds we beat him vs he beats us if we call...I would say we're good 14% of the time.
He could also think hero is slow playing a smaller flush too. This is one of those things where if I was at the table and actually looking at him, seeing how he handles his cards, chips, folds, everything, I would know if he has more bluffs in him or not to start thinking about a potential hero call but readless I don't think it's worth it.

I feel a King doesn't bet this big on the river. Feels very polarized to a bluff or monster (possibly nut flush slow played on turn).

In the absence of knowing whether villain has big bluff tendencies it's a sigh fold.

I agree with small bet river for value, oh, and fold pre.

You’re in a spot where he can make a huge overbet because he has a HUGE range advantage over you. You’ve capped your range by checking the Turn and River—your hand is face-up, the whole table knows you don’t have a flush, so Villain can shove (not just overbet, SHOVE) with Any Two Cards here because you can never call because you never have a flush.

Your decision to check the River cost you this hand. Now, maybe he had you beat anyway (he really should have a lot of flushes here), but you lost any hope of winning the pot after you checked on the River.

Opening pre seems fine to me, unless the table is full of good regs who are going to 3b you liberally IP, in which case find a different table .

Flop also fine, we have a good but vulnerable hand so why not bet more to charge draws.

AP, c/f river. Feels like A/Q high flush that checked behind turn for deception, or a slowplayed set. I dont see how V how can have many bluffs here given they called a pot-sized bet OTF with 2 ppl behind. They have to be turning some one pair hand into a bluff, and readless that just doesn't happen enough at these stakes to make this a call.

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River overbet should polarise villain and it makes me wonder what we take this line with, that can then call a big river bet. I think if we don't go for value OTR, I don't think we have any bluffcatchers that can withstand this bet sizing. It's an occasional spot that comes up in my game and I'm not sure how to overcome it - I don't want to x nutted hands turn and river because then I lose too much value, but then to a thinking villain, it's clear that a large river bet should blow me off my hand.