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09-28-2021 , 09:27 AM

eric888666

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 132

V is an old man. I saw him 3 bet preflop only to fold to the 4 bet. I also saw him betting aggressively with pocket 8's on a QQJ board. He's tight with his preflop action.

V is UTG +2 and makes it $20. I call in the CO with J

. One of the blinds calls.

($65) J

BB checks, V bets $60, I call, BB Folds

($185) 7

V Bets $160 and I call

($505) 9

V bets $400

I have about $700 behind and V has me covered.

Hero? Should I have folded or raised flop/turn? Please help me and let me know your thoughts, thanks!

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09-28-2021 , 10:23 AM

ChaosInEquilibrium

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Flop just call is good, especially facing the large sizing. I don’t generally raise pair+FD heads up.
Facing large sizing again, Turn call is good.
River seems like a raise to get value from overpairs. You’d have to have specific reads that this sizing is more indicative of a flopped/turned set than overpair in order to make the nitty just call.

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09-28-2021 , 10:52 AM

ChaosInEquilibrium

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Originally Posted by eric888666

I also saw him betting aggressively with pocket 8's on a QQJ board.

What was his line?

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09-28-2021 , 03:27 PM

samo

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,251

Except for pre, line looks ok, now AI.

Pre - unless you have reads on the players behind, fold to a tight range from +2.

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09-28-2021 , 03:34 PM

QuantumSurfer

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,987

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Originally Posted by samo

Except for pre, line looks ok, now AI.

Pre - unless you have reads on the players behind, fold to a tight range from +2.

My thinking as well.

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09-28-2021 , 03:49 PM

Michael DeMichele

Formerly TStoneMBD

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,596

A flush would have been perfect, but top two is almost as spicy �� as well. My thoughts:

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09-28-2021 , 05:46 PM

Amanaplan

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Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,628

Tough to let this go pre but it's 'right' even w some favorable gameflows. AP call flop and turn and rip river because if he is capable of betting 400 w JJ+ then he's also bitchcry/moron-calling a shove w all of it, and we'll gladly do that against his single JJ combo if we get the other 18. If you lose to an underset, oh well, and you can give him credit for not playing how to stack yourself 101 poker.

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09-28-2021 , 07:34 PM

monikrazy

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,050

Would just call river as played - tight villain is set heavy and often capable of folding his 1p hands to raise.

Flop raise is an option but would lean call against that sizing.

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09-28-2021 , 09:40 PM

eric888666

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 132

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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium

What was his line?

V had position and bet flop/check turn/bet river

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09-30-2021 , 12:10 AM

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PlusEEV

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 92

agree to fold pre, all other lines fine. as played jam river

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09-30-2021 , 01:50 AM

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RobertUCooper

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Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 101

Fold or 3 bet pre, call flop, call turn, jam river

If you're worried that he might fold overpairs to jam then just balance it with bluffs, this is mandatory jam

If you're calling preflop to not try to get all the money in when you have top 2 pair on relatively safe runout (lose to 4 combos of JJ/66 really) then its even more of a fold preflop

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