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09-28-2021 , 09:14 AM
I literally just sat down and only saw one full orbit. I don't know anyone at the table and haven't played with any of them before. It's a mandatory straddle. I have AK and make it $55 to go. UTG +2 makes it $160. Everyone folds to me. I have $1,000 behind and V has me covered.

V isn't a old man. He's about 30's to 40's.

Hero?
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09-28-2021 , 10:02 AM
I would assume he isn't bluffing or just pressuring you from UTG+2. He has a legitimate EP reraising hand more often then not.

Sizing makes a 4bet unappealing and i don't like calling. Hero is both out of position and the flat is very readable so calling is going to be low EV at best and against an unknown probably -EV. I make a tight fold until I have some read on villain.
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09-28-2021 , 10:07 AM
Folding seems way to tight here. Flatting oop doesn’t seem like a great play either. I think you just have to 4! Get it in here


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09-28-2021 , 10:29 AM
Preflop sizing is too big. Just go 3-3.5x.
Clear call in mid-stakes facing 3bet. If you look at solvers AKo is a pure call if you open UTG and get 3bet. Idk why you’d ever consider a fold or 4bet unless you have reads that V is 3betting tight.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 09-28-2021 at 10:45 AM.
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09-28-2021 , 11:52 AM
Since the straddle is on and you're playing 100bb's effective chart I'm looking at likes 4betting almost pure. If there wasn't a straddle and you were 200bbs deep AKo calls, folds, and 4bets all with similar frequencies.
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09-28-2021 , 05:39 PM
30 pre, now fold. Next. It's an absolutely terrible spot in a live game to be completely read-less and full-stacked.
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09-28-2021 , 07:38 PM
Call is standard. We can make case for 4! or fold as exploit.
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09-28-2021 , 09:10 PM
as others have said, the raise is way too big. As played, I wouldn't be folding without resounding evidence that he isn't 3 betting worse and we don't have this.

4 betting is meh. I'd rather call and play fit or fold on the flop
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09-29-2021 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
I would assume he isn't bluffing or just pressuring you from UTG+2. He has a legitimate EP reraising hand more often then not.

Sizing makes a 4bet unappealing and i don't like calling. Hero is both out of position and the flat is very readable so calling is going to be low EV at best and against an unknown probably -EV. I make a tight fold until I have some read on villain.
Yup

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Originally Posted by Eugeinus
Folding seems way to tight here. Flatting oop doesn’t seem like a great play either. I think you just have to 4! Get it in here


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Nope
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09-30-2021 , 01:54 AM
Raise size is terrible

It is weird spot because of SPR once you use this size

Normally OOP I would favour 4-betting a lot, but not sure how opponent react to your sizing

I probably go call>4 bet click back/fold to jam>4 bet/call>fold, really don't like folding
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09-30-2021 , 07:39 AM
against qq you have 43% equity you have to to call 105 to win 360 or 29%

this cannot be a fold

however if you jam you might get a fold or call and see if you connect
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09-30-2021 , 10:42 AM
I think the rationale for not 4betting AKo is the following: we are going to have a flatting range to the 3bet. For example, QQ and JJ are flatted a high percentage of the time in this configuration. If we always 4bet AKo, then our flatting range is unprotected (capped) on A-hi and K-hi flops.

Where does this leave our 4-betting range? Well, we can 4-bet AKs/AA/KK for value. We need additional bluffs. For those bluffs we can use a polar strategy and 4bet hands like ATs/AQo. These polar 4bets have good blocker properties and we can safely fold these hands to a jam.

The above rationale for flatting AKo in UTG1 versus 3bet is covered in Bart Hanson’s CLP material. I think Bart was looking at solver material for 100BB stack depth, but I can’t be sure. As we get shorter, I think we can start to adjust our 4bet strategy because we lose the incentive to have a flatting range from OOP, thus, we want to use a linear 4bet range.
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09-30-2021 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tarzan1112
against qq you have 43% equity you have to to call 105 to win 360 or 29%

this cannot be a fold

however if you jam you might get a fold or call and see if you connect
This is useful if play ended preflop.
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10-02-2021 , 12:46 AM
The real problem is the initial open. If we opened to a normal size of 30 and got 3 bet to 90, we can make an easy call and play poker postflop. Now it’s awkward.

You should be making smaller opens from OOP. You want to make big pots IP. From EP, you’re mostly hoping people are either morons who will cold flat UTG raises with ATo, or will respect your UTG range and just fold.

If I did decide to 4 bet here, it’d be a jam. Which is part of the problem of the open size.
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10-02-2021 , 07:29 PM
Why so much pre?
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