I have AK on the button. one limper and I make it $35 to go. BB calls limper folds.

BB has $1.5K behind and I have him covered. I've seen BB bluff his missed draw only once over 8 hours. He plays about 1.5-2.5 hands each orbit, but isn't too overly aggressive with them. I've seen him bet after everyone checks/shows weakness (so I believe he steals - but I haven't seen showdown/his cards)

($80) AK3 BB checks/I check. Does everyone agree we give a free card here?

($80) T BB checks, I bet $60 and BB check raises to $160. I call

($400) 2 BB bets $400 Hero?

No, i dont agree with the free card. This is a board we are gonna be C-betting a huge percentage of the time, some players is betting this 100 percent as the preflopraiser heads up.

So it makes perfekt sense to bet when our opponents expect us to do so when we actually have the goods. Villain may very well call our expected flop bet with a very wide range, or even trying to spazzraise with bluffs against percieved weakness.

Plus if he plays decently tight he should be all over this board with both loads of Ax and Kx hands+ gutshots to broadway.

As played it seems like you have slowpayed your way into trouble. I am folding the river against described villain and not thinking twice about it.

I c-bet this board 1/4-1/3 pot 100% of the time.

I'd probably sigh call down if you think Villain can have KT, A3 and/or AT. If not, then fold is probably okay.

I also C-bet small on this board 100% of the time, if you have bluffs in your range, you pretty much have to

you only described villain not yourself which tells me you have no self-awareness about your own image

unless you are up against a maniac you should bet this flop

if you are a nit and thats why you checked then just call river because you are a nit. stay with your plan

if you are meta trapping villain then stay with your plan and jam river

but you dont seem to have a clue about your own image so whatever

what are you doing raising river are you hoping AT or KT calls you what else? this dude going to play with or call with 23o or K3? what are you doing here


anyway

stop playing poker and find JESUS CHRIST

the cards do not matter God alone matters all you need is faith

We should also bet the flop against a maniac, unless we have a very specific read that tells us not to.

OP certainly didn't check the flop because he's a nit. Raising the river would be suicidal without any reads about villain never folding anything. We got check/raised on the turn and villain bets pot on the river. On a board that has very little busted draws except for turned diamonds but hero blocks the vast majority of those. And a couple gutshots (+pair).

I'm calling here and hope to see AT/KT. I'd be more happy to call if I knew that villain 3bet TT though. Or that he folds QJo preflop.

Agree with above posters that flop is a bet. Something like $25-30.

And then I don't really get why we go from betting nothing to 3/4 pot on the turn when the FD likely doesn't help vil (you have the top two diamonds). Baiting weak draws for $40 or less would be the play if that's what you're up to.

Once vil c/r this is a leveling game. Did he do it bc you showed weakness? Because it was obvious you're trapping with a set or two pair? Or bc he think his two pair is the nuts?
JJ 's comment about your image would help - have you been caught "delayed cbetting" air? Have you made laydowns where some players wouldn't? Or are you seen as someone who pays off?

Its not really a levelling game when a tight-passive 2/5 player check raises the turn on a board like this+ follows up with a huge pot sized riverbet. This is the nutz like 95 percent of the time.

OMG bet the flop…. Why do you want to give a free card?

If he has a pocket pair and he hits he will outdraw you. If he has a Broadway QJ/QT/JT and hits he will outdraw you.

If he has Ax/Kx he’s calling a flop bet anyway. You don’t have to let these hands catch up to 2pair.

Bet the flop!

Turn is fine.

River it’s a judgement call. I would always call readless. Your reads kinda make me want to fold. Idk.

Grunch

Pre. 7x is quite a raise even after one limper. 4-5 is common here. 6 is husky but I can get on board. 7 is starting to get out there. Great table if you can wait around for hands worth 7x and get called still.

Flop. I like betting $20-$30 on the flop more than checking because I'll want to do that with a ton of hands and I don't know what check back range I'm trying to protect here. I especially like a bet in BTN vs BB because BB can have a lot of offsuit A and K combos that'll pay on the flop that a limp-caller is just not gonna have. The 7x open sizing may have cut down on those hands though so the check back gets a bit ok from me.

Turn looks good to me. His raise is about half pot and this is one of your best hands (if not best, maybe you check back AA but not KK on flop) so definitely don't fold yet. FWIW I just heard Doug Hansen say that villain check/raise turn after a checked back flop in low stakes is usually a bluff in his experience because you look weak waiting to bet the turn.

River I feel like we have to call here. Isn't this the best hand you have? It'd have to be a massive exploitative move to fold here imo because he can play worse two pairs this way and also could smell blood. Maybe you can fold this hand specifically because it blocks his backdoor flush draw combos but I'm not buying it.

PS do you bluff your QJ at the flop or check it back? Do you have QJo here? Does he have QJo after a 7x? That's a lot more combos of straights to worry about.

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After reading other posters comments I'm seeing the emphasis on the passive read after 8 hours and wouldn't fault anyone folding. I'm just too much of a station to fold the best hand I'd have in a situation unless the board is a train wreck.

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Agree it's a blaring siren to face this betting sequence...but I'd also picture a lot of turn c/r generate folds so we don't see followup river bets much, and may be hard to gauge why psb.

Agree 95% fat value...Trying to see if we can rule out/discount two pair hands, as this doesn't seem like a stone bluff and we have the main drawing hands blocked.

Hero's 3/4 pot bet shouldn't look like a stab, but it'd be good to know how such delayed cbets went in previous hands. With 8 hours of history, we should have more data points to go on.

Dont mind the flop check at a small frequency

turn is good

river we are always beat: 99% QJ, 1% TT
fold your way to victory

Hell to the nawww!



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