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5/5 NL A7 suited UTG +3 5/5 NL A7 suited UTG +3

11-16-2021 , 01:41 PM
V1 is two seats to my left. He's between a LAG and Maniac, but not a drunk stupid maniac. He will check down turn/river with decent SDV and he folded when I was the preflop raiser and I fired 2 barrells OOP. I saw him float once in position, then fire the turn when the preflop raiser showed weakness.

BB just sat down about 1 orbit ago and hasn't played any hands.

I have A7 and limp. V1 makes it $25 to go. BB calls and I call.

($80) flop is 876. BB checks, I check and V1 checks

($80) turn is 4 BB checks, I lead out $45. V1 folds and BB raises to $145.

I have about $450 behind and BB has me covered.

Hero?

Was my turn bet ok?

Please help/let me know, thanks!
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11-16-2021 , 02:01 PM
It looks really thin, he most likely has a straight which means we're only about 20% here and we don't likely have any FE either.
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11-16-2021 , 02:11 PM
Why no raise pre?

I prefer to check turn. Your 7x is best here a lot but there aren't many worse hands that can call you and better hands won't likely fold to one bet. You should be happy to try to make your hand or just show down cheaply.

3-betting would be spew and it's so far from a fold that I don't think the argument needs to be made against that.
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11-16-2021 , 02:37 PM
1. I’m not a fan of open limping. Raise pre, imo.

2. Played fine up until the turn, where I’d just check again and call a bet. You have SDV plus outs to improve so it fits good as a bluff catcher which is perfect against the described V. Betting and getting raised is a disaster and the likelihood of that happening based on V description is higher than normal.
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11-16-2021 , 02:53 PM
You kinda put yourself in this spot -- raise pre, then c-bet flop, then check-call turn if anyone floated you on the flop.

As played, call the turn re-raise. It's definitely possible he has the straight and you are drawing only to the spade flush, but based on the way this hand has gone down, his range can still include semi-bluffs flush draws with or without pairs and combo draws, or other weaker made hands like 2 pairs that you have additional equity against. For $100 into a $270 pot, it's a call in-position against the BB. If you don't improve on the river and BB bets out, then you might have to find a fold.
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11-16-2021 , 03:42 PM
I don’t like the turn sizing with pretty much any hand that you might have. If you’re betting for value, representing the 5 or thinner value with a flopped set, I would prefer to go much larger than half PSB to charge draws.

With your exact hand, I think it’s too strong to turn into a bluff and too weak to bet for value. I don’t think we can get called by worse, and I’d much prefer a check on turn.

AP I think you have implied odds to call the x/r. You can consider bluffing clubs if they come in and BB checks river, but you don’t have to and maybe you shouldn’t.

About pre: I have A8s,A7s,A6s,A2s,A3s as a fold UTG, but limping these hands can be okay in the right game conditions I guess. I don’t have much experience with limping strats so I’m not sure. I know a crusher pro in my area who experimented with limping suited aces and small pps in EP in a very loose and aggro game dynamic with very deep average stacks (>500BB) but he told me he eventually gave it up and now folds the weakest suited aces and smallest pps in UTG. I would guess it may be okay to limp these hands if there are a lot of multi-way SRP pots. The more 3betting pre and general level of aggression pre/post in a game would push me to just folding pre.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 11-16-2021 at 04:09 PM.
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11-16-2021 , 04:21 PM
I just noticed you’re in UTG+3 (LJ, I guess), not UTG. I think A7s is a fine open from that position. If Maniac/LAG is doing a lot of 3betting I probably still fold pre though.
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