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5/5 NL 9T suited (spades) in SB 5/5 NL 9T suited (spades) in SB

09-08-2021 , 02:28 PM
Villian is somewhat tight/passive and have been playing with him for 5-6 hours. He's not a calling station/isn't that sticky, but i've been aggressive/pushing him in spots where he probably thinks i bluff too much.

V is in EP and leads out for $15. several limpers and i call $10.

($75) flop is 862 giving me a straight flush draw. I check and everyone checks behind.

($75) turn is a 5 I lead out $75. V calls and everyone else folds

($225) river is a 8

Hero?

please help/let me know if i played each street correctly/incorrectly, thanks!
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09-08-2021 , 03:41 PM
People are going to say fold pre, but for the price and if everyone else called, I get it. If I bet turn, I go smaller. Go ahead and bet river, but you made the pot so big it makes it tough. If he will fold an over-pair, bet $125. If not, check and muck.
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09-08-2021 , 03:44 PM
Good spot to overbet bluff. $300 almost certainly prints.
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09-08-2021 , 09:58 PM
Either bet river large (PSB+) or check-give up IMO. I don’t see any value hands that want to take a smaller size here on the river.

Your turn sizing is quite suspicious. I’d go much smaller in a 5-way spot OOP.
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09-08-2021 , 10:38 PM
I prefer 3 bet pre but call also fine

Flop fine

Turn I prefer either betting smaller or bigger, think I would use either like a $25 size or a $100+ size

River I give up with T9 spades would fire other suits though
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09-09-2021 , 08:07 AM
Eff stack size is important before making a decision.

Pre - getting a good price, but a tight/passive EP open is a usually a narrow range. Probably not a big mistake, just plan on Xing a bunch.

Flop - X w/the intention of X/R.

Turn - smaller, maybe $30ish, planning to barrel most rivers.

AP - you have all the 8X hands vs V range, and he has a fold button, $250ish.
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09-09-2021 , 09:19 AM
I find it's often a mistake to expect people to adjust to how you've been playing. Like, does this guy even notice? Is he capable or willing to adjust? If so, is he drawing a line in the sand on THIS hand in particular?

Calling pre is fine.

With "several callers" I think you might want to just bet out on the flop. Dude ain't gonna c-bet AhKh. You can make a kind of a small to medium bet... maybe 30 and then 3 bet if raised. Getting it in is fine. But anyone without a set is in kind of a nasty spot vs you.

Turn: concerning that this guy is calling with several people behind him. Not that many will check an overpair on the flop, but some will. I guess he could have A or k high spades. Would be pretty strange for him to have anything else though. 77?

River: Just kind of a crappy spot. I guess the book might say bluff with no showdown value. But you aren't repping a lot and a lot of draws missed and his range is pretty strong. Unless it was a massive overbet, I'd certainly call you with most pairs.

Maybe check jam? You'll lose when he checks back A high flush draw, obv. But win if he decides to bluff it. If he bets overpairs, assuming you are reasonably deep, this is a hell spot where he should fold to most live villains.
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09-09-2021 , 09:30 AM
Over bets often look so bluffy to me. I guess if you are going to over bet with the nuts, too, it's OK. We just spend so little time with most villains -- and they are often unobservant anyway -- I don't think it matters. What matters is how V reacts at this moment.

With description of H, I'm more likely to try to snap off a bluff of a big bet and fold to a value-looking bet.

Actually, reading description of how V might see H again, I probably just give up on river.
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09-09-2021 , 01:12 PM
check turn again.
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09-09-2021 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Balerion1
check turn again.

Yeah, that seems sound to me. Perhaps CR. With so many people in the pot, bluffing seems kind of pointless.


You could also bet fairly small and build up a pot . But blasting the pot might not be so great an idea.
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09-16-2021 , 09:45 AM
I think checking the flop was reasonable.
On the turn betting is the correct play, you want to build a pot in case you hit and give you an option to bluff the river if you missed.
Since the river is an 8, and all the draws missed, I like you stabbing the river. Since player is passive it is possible he has a hand like a pair of 9s, 10s, Js. I think with Jacks player would have raised more preflop to try to subconsciously protect. But more than likely he has something like AK or AQ or AJ that totally missed everything. In this case you have a pretty good case of stabbing the river. And maybe also fold equity if he holds a pair. I would stab in there about $125-$150 or if you seen him fold to specific % amount of pot- I would stick to that number. Being in the SB and aggressive, that board has your name written all over it.

Btw, what did V hold?
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09-16-2021 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot23
I think checking the flop was reasonable.
On the turn betting is the correct play, you want to build a pot in case you hit and give you an option to bluff the river if you missed.
Since the river is an 8, and all the draws missed, I like you stabbing the river. Since player is passive it is possible he has a hand like a pair of 9s, 10s, Js. I think with Jacks player would have raised more preflop to try to subconsciously protect. But more than likely he has something like AK or AQ or AJ that totally missed everything. In this case you have a pretty good case of stabbing the river. And maybe also fold equity if he holds a pair. I would stab in there about $125-$150 or if you seen him fold to specific % amount of pot- I would stick to that number. Being in the SB and aggressive, that board has your name written all over it.

Btw, what did V hold?
V had k6o
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09-17-2021 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by eric888666
V had k6o
Definitely not a tight/passive villain
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09-17-2021 , 04:28 PM
How much did you bet?
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09-18-2021 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
How much did you bet?
I don’t think he bet. I think he gave up on the river, and checked.
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