... Straddled pot, so not that deep, but $1460 vs main V and ~$800 vs V2.

V1: Mid 30's rec player. Seems okish. Looks "rich" based on clothing. HH:

I open with KJs, he flats in SB after 2 other callers. He calls my flop bet on a dry J-high board. He c/c again on a blank turn, and bets ~2/3 pot OTR which brings in a King. I thought about jamming, but flatted. We chopped.

In another pot, after 4 or 5 straddle limps, he makes it $40 in SB with 99 and gets 1 caller. He leads a little over 1/2 pot on a 8TJ 2-tone board and flats a raise of ~3x. Checks the Q that brings him his straight, but also the flush, and checks the river which was the 4th flush card.

V2: Older guy slowly loosing by betting and calling with dominated hands.

Hero: Covers both Vs. TAG, probably look very aggro. They've seen me lead out with strong hands. I'd been connecting a lot but also bluffing here & there so lots of aggression in non-showdown hands as well.


UTG straddles $10, 1 fold, Hero limps with 22, V2 limps, V1 limps OTB + others... total 6 way pot

$54

K42

checked to hero who only leads $25. (was hopping to get raised by either a V in sb or bb as they'd been c/r at a high frequency and showdowns confirmed bluffs). V2 flats, V3 flats, others fold.

$129

A

Hero $80, V2, $200, V1 shoves $1425, H looks at V2 who looks like he's ready to muck...

so wtf..? AA/KK/AK aren't in V1's range here. I think 44 would raise flop most of the time... that leaves some 35 suited combos, and some Ax 2p combos mostly..? But would they ship this flop? WTF does ship this flop? Please help.

Not even a little bit.

Damn this got ugly quick. I think v1 always has Ax possible 2p so that blocks your redraws. Beyond that idk

He is repping 35 and Axdd so math prob says,fold but you do have a set

LOL, so b/c this is my first limp I all of a sudden don't have the image from 2hrs of play?

Not if you are limping a straddled pot, you don't. You look like you have exactly what you have. Major problem with "aggro" players, the minute they limp, they have a small pp.

based on prior hand history V1 takes bad lines imo.

Try to see if you cant beat V1 into the pot with all your wager chits.

I cant imagine a whole lot ships the flop. Maybe 42s but there's not a lot of 42s left in the deck since you hold 2 of them and there is another 2 on the board leaving only 1 42s combo left. Even then I cant see it shipping flop.

53 combos raise vs you this deep to setup stacks a little better since you're still over 100BBs with the 10 straddle/also probably thinks they have some FE since most of your good kings you wouldnt limp preflop, though maybe that gives them too much credit?

If V1 is blocking my re-draws... then I don't need them. We're ahead of 2p and NFDs. If we throw in Axdd into his range, then the math says this is a clear call. We're 76% vs A4s, A2s, 53s, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad3d, A4o, A2o

OTB I'd assume this is A2s/A4s a fair amount. Seems like an overplay but if V1 'seems rich' then likely he's more willing to use his chips as weapons lighter than others. Probably thinks A's up are ahead and wants to charge broadway or either flush draw. I think I'm calling the AI, not feeling fantastic but thinking I'm ahead most of the time and trying fade a board pair. Not too concerned if either flush hits.

I agree with that, but I'm not sure if V1 is good enough to pick up on that (along with most of the table). Anyways, I'd appreciate the conclusion you're drawing from this... V1 puts us on a set and shoves b/c we call, or shoves b/c he thinks we'll actually fold it out?

He has no 2pairs. V1 had em i think. V1 is prob never semi bluffing the turn so i put him on the made hand.

V2 does not have any 2p combos at all assuming he raises AK pre but if you put AK in there it sways to a call. I have seen a lot of villains at this level overlimp AK and play the hand similarly so...

Take a4 and a2 out and put in an ace as a dead card, then do math, include AK.

Also, your range is face up to a smart villain but most people dont think on that level. Its fairly easy to put u om a set here and v2 is raising you so it doesnt seem like a good spot to semibluff but it is better than flatting. So Ad3d might be worst hand he shows up with

I guess also relevant for anyone critiquing the limp... the BTN in this hand was a guy I recently stacked. He's a semi-maniacal LAG that vowed to 3bet all of my pf opens.

Im def limping 33 so pre is close. Might just muck pre. You always have bottom set when you flop it

Fold

corl

This is describing V1?

Easy call then.

I won't criticize limping, anyway, does your game have a BBJ? I would put V1 on 53s, maybe even the . I don't think he's gonna bluff shove his stack w/ anything less, regardless of his claim to 3bet you.

I miss wrote, big blind was a guy vowing to raise me.

Don't slowroll them

Ummmm call? You basically the top
of your range here. seems he could have worse two pairs, combo draws on this turn

Do you ever limp
AA/KK from this pos pre?

If no and villian knows this then definitely call because
a. this is your second nuts, and folding the second nut hand in your range is bad
b. If villian knows your capped then his range can be wider.

I mean honestly either **** it doesnt matter. u has set

It's a no brainer gii IMO, you are at the top of your range and the action has dictated that no one probably has AA, KK. There are many 2pairs that will take this line in attempt to block the flush draw, flush draws will take this line, etc. If you are folding here you are folding almost your entire range here.

You flopped a set and you beat tons of 2pairs, top pairs, draws etc.

The way OP was written, does that mean Hero folded? He only invested $115 and now has decision to play for stacks. I don't see any 2 pair combos except for AK, maybe...but V1 just calling on the button w/ that....is quite bad. Hero has low set, I'm guessing he's beat here at least by better set if not the nuts.

instamuck. this is always 35. when you consider that some of the other hands have blockers to a boat, there is no way I am calling this.

Any guesses what V2 is raise/folding w/ here lol? Ax?

Just fold and don't feel too bad about it. Occasionally he'll have aces up and you missed out on a huge pot, but most of the time you're getting it in pretty bad.

Probably just raising or folding this pre. Limping turns your hand face-up, and you're going to get iso'ed a lot by the players behind you if they are aggro.

Am i reading this correclt? you have bottom set, board is AK42 with 2 spades and 2 diamonds and some wealthy looking recreational player jammed turn?

We are all looking at the same thing right?

Put your money into the damn pot dude. You didnt drive all the way to the casino to fold here. (this is a ****ty explanation i know, but seriously, this is way too MUBSy for 150 BBs.