Villain 1 (covers) just sat down seemed kinda tight but idk I've played an orbit with him. Previous hand villain 1 who just sits got kings on my striddle and made it 35 in bn after 6 limps. Flop was aq6 checked through. Turn was a blank 1 caller and river goes check check and he won.

Villain 2 (about 200) pretty loose.

Hero (650) is unknown but is young and got caught bluffing earlier but I don't think villains saw or cared.

Now our hand I have 98 spades in BB. 2 people limp I check. 1 limper has 200 hes super loose whatever. effective.

Flop 8 9 q 2 diamonds.
Sb checks I bet 20, 2 callers.

Turn blank 8.
Sb checks to me I bet 55 villain 2 calls villain 1 makes it 125 and I call and villain 2 then shoves about 30 more. Villain 1 who re raised me tries to make it 200 and I object cuz that's not allowed and I'm scared.

River k not completing flush draws

Small blind shoves for my last 400. Call or fold. If he bets 230 do I shove my last 170? I have the worst full house that's the problem

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So there's $15 in the pot minus rake (like $12-$13) and you lead for $20?

Ok, I'm done with this hand. There's 4 people in the pot, not 3 as you said. And the hand is hard to follow. Who's the SB. What's he play like? If a V is SB call him a V: V3. Then describe him. Otherwise refer to him as V1 or V2. Read the stickies in this forum to see how to post a hand in a clear way that doesn't make people trying to help you have to put in the work to figure out what's going on.

Sorry sb is villain 1. I didnt consider villain 3 cuz he folded flop. Villain 2 didnt like folding. They r calling 15 or 20 the same amouny of times. Your right about hh my bad.

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I dont think hand is that hard to follow, would be nice to know which cards are diamonds.

I think its fine to get it in here, I think they should have more combos of trips and 10J, then Q8 or 99

Ok so I fixed the hand trying to make it more clear, sorry about that.

Villain 1 (covers) just sat down seemed kinda tight but idk I've only played an orbit with him. Previous hand villain 1 who just sat got kings on my straddle and made it 35 on the BB after 6 limps. Flop was aq6 checked through. Turn was a blank villain bet 60 and got 1 caller and river goes check check and villain won.

Villain 2 (about 200) pretty loose dead money in this hand.

Hero (650) is unknown but is young and got caught bluffing earlier but I don't think villains saw or cared.

Now our hand I have 98 in BB. 2 people limp I check my option.

Flop 89q
Villain 1 checks I bet 20, both villains call

Turn blank 8
Villain 1 checks to me I bet 55 villain 2 calls then villain 1 makes it 125.
I call and villain 2 then shoves about 30 more.
Villain 1 who re raised me tries to make it 200 more and I object cuz that's not allowed and I'm scared.

River knot completing flush draws

Villain 1 shoves for my last 400. Call or fold. If he bets 230 do I shove my last 170? I have the worst full house that's the problem

Also the main villain just sat, he's like 45 to 60 year old dude, not sure about much else. There's no great way to explain the action with almost 4 bet s on the flop.

Leading for 20 and for 15 when the pot is 14 isn't a crazy big deal in my opinion cuz if villain 2 likes his hand he'll call either.

What positions did they limp from?

This is a spot where you shold happily call. The amt of ppl with non fh hands is way too high

Also, i wouldnt refer to having a fh with a straight on board.....a problem

Villain 1 is sb so he's automatically in and villain 2 is mid position

Yea I'm mainly worried about villain one. It just seems weird he'd choose the turn to get crazy with a straight. Being that he raised the straddle to only 35 i thought he could possibly limp 99 though he wouldn't do it always

don't think I could find a fold

I agree I don't think I ever fold a full house like this for 400. So r we putting him on a straight or what though? R we just assuming he's a fish n he puts me on a flush draw? Does he call the flop with an 8.

I just am really confused about him tryin to 4 bet the turn, but I guess no one ever folds

JT, T8, J8

I'm not folding this in a limped pot. While you do have the worst full house, QQ, KK, and 99 should of raised pre, Q8 should of raised flop to protect against other draws. Only hand I see you losing too is K8.

This, totally, although the K wasn't the best card in the deck for you on the river.

I would certainly not be scared on this turn. If you are scared and even considering folding this hand then you can't be rolled for 5/5 and should drop down a level at least. With you objecting to a further raise on the turn by villain, villain must believe that you haven't got a FH and more likely flopped the nuts.

I would have to know for sure that villain would not be getting this in without a FH for me to fold.

If villains got Q8 or K8 I think it's a cooler.

I'm calling.

In relation to your question OP, if villain bets smaller on the river it's close between calling and shipping but villain dependent. I'm probably just calling, but is the river bet is significantly small and looks like a blocking bet with a straight, I may raise small.

There is nothing wrong with your slight over bet on the flop with top two, as I think you likely have the best hand and players will call with gutshots.

You only lose to Q8 and K8. 4 combos each. Plus possibly a limped 99. there are 16 combos of TJ, plus a bunch of combos of T8 and J8. Plus if we put K8 in his range, we also have to put A8 in his range. I think we call it off here pretty happily without better reads.

Also, live is so crazy ive seen v turn over AA here