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05-20-2024 , 11:12 PM

Bellezza

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 145

5/5
~$1000 effective

V - A tricky Latino player who loves action. He drinks a lot and talks a lot. This is a game-changer player; if you have this guy at the table, the whole dynamic changes. However, he doesn't spew money away and tries to be somewhat reasonable.

V(UTG) opens $25, Hero(UTG+2) A

reraise to $100, V calls

Flop($110) J

V x, Hero bets $50, V raises to $200, Hero calls

Turn($510) K

V jams all in, Hero($700) - ???

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05-21-2024 , 05:46 AM

OmahaDonk

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,062

Pot size is 210 on flop and 610 on turn. At spr 4.5 on this flop I’m not folding aces.

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05-21-2024 , 05:55 AM

TwitchyTicks

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 81

3b size seems a tad large. Flop size c-bet of 25% is whatever. Call flop. Call turn.

Have to have a very good reason to find a fold on turn.

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05-22-2024 , 05:41 AM

Smoola1981

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2022 Posts: 338

I would 3bet a little smaller pre as a default. What was your reasoning for 3betting large here?

As played, I think that you have to call off the turn shove. Your flop cbet was so small that you could have induced some kind of spew.

I guess you could tank on the turn for a while to mine for live tells to change your decision. Barring some kind of live tell that changes your read, I would call the turn shove.

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05-22-2024 , 07:00 AM

Niemand

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Join Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 236

Agree with the others that the 3bet preflop is a tad too big, although still reasonable being 200bb effective.

I do not hate your cbet size otf, actually I guess one should mix between like 25%-30% pot and 75% pot .
V's c/r on such a dry board seems weird: his only reasonable value hand is 77, and a bluffing range in this spot should include AXs with a backdoor FD and maybe some SCs which gave him a gutshot and a backdoor FD (?) .
Standard call to the c/r anyway.

Turn I think you have to call. Again, the only reasonable hand you are loosing to is 77; if he c/r flop with KJ, good for him ...

Last edited by Niemand; 05-22-2024 at 07:06 AM.

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05-22-2024 , 07:05 AM

OmahaDonk

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,062

I like the oversized raise. Both these ranges are strong and this guy likes to gamble. It also sets up a comfortable stack off spr.

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05-22-2024 , 08:39 AM

moxterite

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,741

No problem with the 3bet sizing early vs early and against an action player, you could make it 90 perhaps.

Flop bet fine, you could also go big, he's not folding a pair. The check-raise represents JJ or 77 (does he call 77 to 4x preflop?) but could also be QQ, AJ or just an unbeliever.

On the turn you might start to have visions of KK or KJ (which aren't impossible) but there's also backdoor spades. It's probably close, but I would call.

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05-22-2024 , 09:05 AM

Niemand

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 236

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Originally Posted by moxterite

The check-raise represents JJ or 77 (does he call 77 to 4x preflop?) but could also be QQ, AJ or just an unbeliever.

Check-raising this flop with JJ seems pretty bad to me, fwiw.
On the other hand, I think a tricky/action player calls preflop with 77 quite often at this stack depth.

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05-22-2024 , 07:46 PM

docvail

old hand

Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 1,882

PRE - I like the 4x 3B size from +2 over a UTG raise.

FLOP - probably bet smaller, around 1/3 pot or just a tad more, like $40. If he wants to check-raise this dry as toast flop, let him.

TURN - call the jam. This is AJss or I'm not a fake internet doctor.

That, or it's JJ and we're just getting coolered.

I don't think we can fold, not having the As in our hand. He just gets here with way too much AJs or AK. If he called a 4x 3B pre with 22 or 77 and flopped a set, God bless him.

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05-24-2024 , 01:51 PM

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Javanewt

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 12,911

I like making it bigger pre -- makes it look less like AA and gets more money in the pot. Flop bet is way too small given pot is actually >$200. I just raise the flop, personally. No need to get "tricky" by flatting, especially with your tiny c-bet. As played, nothing you can do but call.

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