5/5/10 e550
CO TAG reg opens to 30.
Hero nitty TAG image (v thinks I’m a tough reg) is BTN AKsh to 80.
CO calls.
180) flop 332xss
X hero bets 60. V XR to 150. Hero calls.
480) turn Ts
X hero bets 320 all in?

This play seems pretty trivial I guess but how far down do we go in the offsuit AX?
We can pull from:
1) AKsx
2) AKxs
3) AQsx
4) AQxs
5) AJsx
6) AJxs
7) ATsx
8) ATxs

I guess we can just fold tier 6 and tier 8 OTF?

Yeah I don’t think I'm calling lower than level 5 on the flop. So 5.

I think the right way to think about this is first count the value combos:
24 AA-JJ
Then go pot odds we offer:
320:800
So we need this ratio of of bluffs to value
So like 10 bluffs
Then AKsx AKxs is 7,
AQsx is 4 more so that’s 11 right there and good enough

Actually I realized that our bluffs have boat loads of equity when called by a hand like 99 actually 15 outs so we get to do quite a bit more bluffing...

Maybe we just add AQxs and AJsx and call it a day?

I’m not sure the exact math

I know flushes are hard to make but surely you have at least one

Villains line is kind of weird, it’s not a board he can xr very much, and I would have expected him to continue often on a Ts turn

Wow we get so many more bluffs than I initially thought

But are you jamming all your overpairs? Leaves your check-back range sort of imbalanced. Think you want to check back some AA combos at least. Maybe the ones with a spade.

Are you range betting this board? If so, I think you continue facing the x/r with any Ace-high with a back door flush draw. This is a very small raise size. Just 33% pot. Actually I think you also need to continue with some AK/AQ no backdoor, but I’m not too sure.

Are you really 3betting preflop ATo on BTN vs CO? I would think that hand is close to the bottom of the COs opening range.

dep

I think you are supposed to even 3-bet some frequency of A9o at this stack depth (55bbs)...GTO wiz had hero ripping flop pure (after the c/r) at 40bbs with AsK...looked at the 100BB sim and it even had some flop 3-bets with AsK (though mixed)...had V raising flop with 4s,5s,6s, so don't know how in touch with LLSNL reality that is....so think the call is fine, check is strange from him, I'd be tempted to take my equity but don't think its bad either way...the wizard had Hero betting 10% on the turn with his AsX (e.g. AsTh) hands as well as his nut flushes...so think your jam was fine.

Preflop 3bet strat in BTN is supposed to be polar if you have a flatting range (3bet ranges are always polar when you can flat). Pokersnowie has AT/AJ as mostly calls with a mix of 3b. PS also has A9o as a pure 3bet, at least at 100BB. That's the polar strat though.

When OP was listing combos it looked like he was using a linear range because he went straight down the line. If you're using a linear range (no BTN flatting) I think you're too wide if you go all the way down to ATo. CO isn't opening any hand worse than ATo. So your frequencies are gonna be way out of wack if you fill in a linear 3bet range including all ATo+.

Personally, I'd go polar in BTN v CO because I have a flatting range.

Yeah actually went back and looked and A9o was a pure fold, prob just remembering MTT ranges (Antes matter...) where it can be a mixed call/fold (50BB) or mixed 3!/call (100BB)...the cash ranges I looked at had ATo as mainly a 3! with some folds included also has one folding more as the stack depth increases past 100bbs...

Its an interesting debate linear vs polar for live play. Prob best tailored to who the opener is especially in late position spots like this, if they over call better to go linear, if they over fold/ play good ranges then go polar, IMO

Ha, actually, I had the same realization. I was looking at J Little’s Tourney ranges where A9o was being 3bet and ATo/AJo was flatted. Pokersnowie ranges are different and a lot tighter.

I went back and looked at CLP ranges. They were constructed a bit differently. They have A9o as a fold, and ATo as an almost always call (small bit of 3betting), and AJo as a 50/50 3bet/call.

I was also wrong about 3bet ranges always being polar when you have a flatting range. For BTN v CO, looks like the CLP 3bet ranges are linear, but J Little’s tourney ranges are polar. (Both preflop strats advise to have a flatting range.) Perhaps that’s due to the desire to keep SPR high in tourneys so you aren’t forced to commit your stack postflop in marginal situations.

One similarity between CLP cash ranges and the J Little Tourney ranges is that they were advocating to 3bet about 10% in BTN versus a 25% CO open.

yeah feel like 10% 3-bet is standard, the RYE MTT ranges have roughly 10% 3-bet as well with 26.5% continuing total from the BTN against a CO RFI which GTO Wiz has ~18 percent continue vs CO RFI (still like ~10% 3!) for low rake cash. most interesting to me were looking at some overnight monster ranges a while ago that don't call from the BB (against 4x+ raises) and only 3-bet/ fold a linear range in high raked LLSNL. I'd imagine the ranges would be pretty profitable live...

RESULT

V cry folds 99hd