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09-21-2021 , 02:14 AM
There’s a mandatory straddle UTG.

5/5/10 e550
SB bad reg opens to 40.
Hero BB JTsc to 120. (Rolled a 25% 3bet)
SB calls.
HU
250) flop K34ssh
X hero bets 80. V gives strength tell and calls.
410) turn 2s
X x
410) riv 5d
X hero bets 350 all in.

I’m representing an Ace!
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09-21-2021 , 03:09 AM
Looks good, especially the film reference in the title. Alt: Nobody puts baby in a corner without showdown value.

I’m curious, do you literally randomize at the table, or is the roll comment just to fend off the preflop police?
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09-21-2021 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Looks good, especially the film reference in the title. Alt: Nobody puts baby in a corner without showdown value.

I’m curious, do you literally randomize at the table, or is the roll comment just to fend off the preflop police?


I actually use the second hand on my watch, I used to think that I should use live intangibles to select rather than RNG but I just do it this way and only for preflop so that I know my own range post flop and not self-level. But I’m more OCD than most and I know a lot of players who think I’m crazy for using a randomizer in live poker but it gives me peace of mind at a minimum lol
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09-21-2021 , 11:37 AM
Preflop is a weird situation. With the straddle in play you are effectively around 50BB and need to be playing a short stacked strategy. At the same time SB can be on a wide range. With the straddle and the 5/5 blinds the SB is priced in to play all but the worst hands and will want to raise because they have the worst position. As long as you know the SB has a pretty wide range and a fold button I don't mind the randomized bluff.

Flop is the only part I don't really like. The small bet doesn't work with a short stacked strategy. This bet won't get a lot of folds and once you make this bet you barely have enough left to apply any pressure to villain.

As played you got a good run out for the river shove. There are a good number of AX hands that justify the preflop action and backed into a winner.
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09-21-2021 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ



Flop is the only part I don't really like. The small bet doesn't work with a short stacked strategy. This bet won't get a lot of folds and once you make this bet you barely have enough left to apply any pressure to villain.




What you’re saying here doesn’t really make sense.

It u think he’s gonna float the small bet with a lot of garbage, then we should be able to blow him off a good portion of his range pretty easily With a shove on a later street.

Alternatively (and this is my opinion) I think the small cbet WILL get a good amount of folds because he fears that I’m gonna shove on my next move.

HOW COULD IT BE the case that he both simultaneously floats the cbet wide, and also does not feel the pressure from a future all in? The only way would be if this guy were to station down with any pair and even some ace-hi.
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09-22-2021 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
HOW COULD IT BE the case that he both simultaneously floats the cbet wide, and also does not feel the pressure from a future all in? The only way would be if this guy were to station down with any pair and even some ace-hi.
Because most opponents don't think about pot and stack size enough. Villain likely won't realize you have less then a pot sized bet after the flop until you make the bet.
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09-22-2021 , 12:31 PM
I don't mind pre as sb can be pretty wide here

sb shows strength tell


so for this to work sb can't have AK

but we're here on the river and the only way to win is to push

I say all-in


then chips-please
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09-22-2021 , 02:25 PM
RESULT

V complains about the run out and then shows me KQ and folds.
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09-22-2021 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by snowman



so for this to work sb can't have AK



He’s jamming AK pre all day
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09-22-2021 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
He’s jamming AK pre all day
if you can toss AK out of his holdings then its a prime spot for a bluff shove
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09-22-2021 , 09:21 PM
Pre is pretty terrible. I'd 3 bet almost any hand other than this.

As for postflop you have to shove river now.
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09-23-2021 , 03:23 AM
River bluff is ok, though i don't know what strength tell is showing?

Dislike the 3! Though its not as bad if short-handed.

I like the flop sizing.
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09-24-2021 , 02:50 PM
Is UTG straddle still to act behind you preflop? If so, the 3bet is a giant mistake. If not, I still dislike it.
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09-24-2021 , 09:06 PM
Love every street. I think some folks might be missing that there's a UTG straddle left to act, so 3betting is far more valid than a typical sb vs bb situation as a means to isolate and eliminate squeezes.
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09-24-2021 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 411Heelhook
Love every street. I think some folks might be missing that there's a UTG straddle left to act, so 3betting is far more valid than a typical sb vs bb situation as a means to isolate and eliminate squeezes.
No that’s not how this works at all. With a player behind, you don’t play garbage.
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09-24-2021 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
No that’s not how this works at all. With a player behind, you don’t play garbage.


It’s just 25% of my most premium trash

Here’s a question for u, what do u think our optimal 3bet % is here?
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09-25-2021 , 04:26 AM
In a 3 blind game, SB shouldn’t really be opening super wide. I’m sure we 3bet at a decent clip and never flat tho. Someone who’s better than me should be able to speak to percentages.

I’m sure JTo is 100% fold tho. This is not a hand we want to play in this spot.
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09-25-2021 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
In a 3 blind game, SB shouldn’t really be opening super wide. I’m sure we 3bet at a decent clip and never flat tho. Someone who’s better than me should be able to speak to percentages.

I’m sure JTo is 100% fold tho. This is not a hand we want to play in this spot.


If u don’t know the % then how can u say what hands are folds?
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09-25-2021 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
No that’s not how this works at all. With a player behind, you don’t play garbage.
...Wait, does op have JTs or JTo? I thought JTsc meant suited clubs lol, thought the convention for indicating individual suits was JsTc.

If op has JTo then yeah he should prob just be folding.
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09-25-2021 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 411Heelhook
...Wait, does op have JTs or JTo? I thought JTsc meant suited clubs lol, thought the convention for indicating individual suits was JsTc.



If op has JTo then yeah he should prob just be folding.


Hmmmmm maybe I should rethink my nomenclature
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09-25-2021 , 08:07 AM
Hyperknit are you playing your entire range in BB as 3B/fold or do you have some flats?
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09-25-2021 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
No that’s not how this works at all. With a player behind, you don’t play garbage.
What if he’s 3betting a polarized range?
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09-25-2021 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Hyperknit are you playing your entire range in BB as 3B/fold or do you have some flats?


3bet or fold

I think I’m incentivized cause I don’t wanna play 3 way monkey in the middle if I flat and straddle comes in too
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09-25-2021 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperknit
3bet or fold

I think I’m incentivized cause I don’t wanna play 3 way monkey in the middle if I flat and straddle comes in too
Okay, then I guess you’re 3betting Linear Ranges.

SB should be opening tighter than BTN in a 2-blind game. I would probably 3bet 20% in this spot, against a loose open, and 12-15% against a tighter open. It’s probably true that JTo doesn’t quite make the cut, even against a loose open, but it depends how yours selecting hands.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 09-25-2021 at 09:17 AM.
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09-25-2021 , 01:13 PM
I also play a 3-bet or fold in SB BB

against this SB as described I'm 3-betting this all day
against an OMC or nit in SB easy fold

my range changes depending on the line-up(IE: V's in question)
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