As played on flop, hero should have led turn imo...

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Regarding the gambling thing, the guys I see who have been around forever usually:

a) have great br management= they don't play under-rolled, they don't torch it off staking, sportsbetting or otherwise, they keep living expenses down, etc. They also not only preserve their br at all times, but constantly work to increase it so they are prepared for hard times/they don't have to grind forever.

b) are experts at game selection= they play in the best available games according to their skillsets (i.e. if they are deepstack nl full-ring specialists they don't play 100/200 hu stud 8 against a hu stud 8 specialist fml).

Ftr though, none of these people who stay in action forever are "bad" at poker. They all are at least decent- just not necessarily the best poker minds. And then of course there are the outliers who might not be good at either a or b but get by on feel, natural ability, pure will to win when up against it.

Hope that makes sense. Pretty standard stuff that is commonly way overlooked imo.

Seems pretty possible the 30k is his 'roll', I'm sure a kid as smart as him wouldn't want to keep much more than that in casino chips/cash. Considering how 5/10 is usually the biggest FW game that runs it's not like he'd need more than that and he'd probably invest the rest. So it wouldn't busto him to lose a 60k pot but it could leave him cash-broke which obviously is annoying and enough a discomfort to create coldfeet.

Also I've played with his roommate before at 2/5 and the kid is just pure lol.

^ lol I agree played with him as well

Let me shed some light, and possibly make a point. The point being, it is helpful to post hands that we are at least at the table. When it is second hand info we miss the texture of the game and the vital info regarding the emotional state of the players.

I was not only in the game, I started the game, and was the subject of the 18k pot that I lost with top set to a rivered 5-high flush.

The "villian" is Jason in the 8-seat. I'm in the 7-seat. He has more integrity than most regs I know, and was stuck 30K from the previous night. This game is so complex it would take me way over my time bank to post all the nuances that this game is comprised of. It's the night before the huge snowstorm, and everyone knew it was coming. The night before, Jason got felted, and asked the table if he could buy back in for double the max (4k instead of 2k.) The entire table agreed. Soon after, he stacked a kid (who agreed to the excessive buy-in), and the kid called the floor over, and complained that Jason bought in over the max.
When the floor returned the overage to the complainer, Jason didn't say a word.

Jason shows up from time to time (from Brooklyn) and plays in the biggest NL game that's playing. He is action X 10, and is always a gentleman. One of the points that i'll make is that I would never address him in a critical manner at the table or on this board (you never know, people talk.)

By the morning Jason was stuck 30K, and was going to leave, When I questioned him, it was because he felt he would never be able to get even, and the decision was made to make it a 10/25 game, and Jason promptly put 30K on the table.

We were 5-handed at the time, and here's where I make another point. I texted a few friends who play LAG, and love a loose big game. I did NOT call any tight players. This happens all the time the people who are not afraid to throw money around (even in an intelligent manner) get invites to the great games.

People who play at the woods know Todd and Jim, and those were 2 of the people I called. Soon the table was full with a list, and shortly after that Jason felted me in the aforementioned 5-high flush against my top set on the flop. No biggy.

A little while later Kyle sat in the game, and he did get felted. He went to his box, and came back with 40ishK to cover Jason. Another point: it doesn't matter whether this was close to Kyles BR or not, it's a lot of money that nobody, including him, wants to lose to a bad beat. That's the part of the thread that's missing. Yes, on the sidelines on Monday morning it's easy to post what we should have done, and 3-betting the flop is it. Circumstances as they were, it was a tough situation, and Kyle played it the best anyone could under the circumstances. We all discussed how sick it would be to get stuck deep in the 10/25 game when in a few hours it's possible there won't even be a 5/10 game because of the storm, and that turned out to be the case.

I'm not being critical ofthe poster. Just saw an opportunity to make a couple of important points. The main one being, when posting a hand that we weren't present for, we may miss the key ingredient that gels it all together.

GL

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I know who you are.

Is this so you can remain anonymous?

No secret there. Everyone who plays NL holdem on the East coast knows who I am. Kinda sucks sometimes. I may take jshove up on his offer, and head for the LAPC ;-).

i think one of the main benefits to posting, other than getting feedback from good players, is to hear objective analysis on the optimal way to play a hand, absent other considerations (such as bankroll). to make a sub-optimal play based on bankroll is ok, but in a vacuum, knowing how to play the hand optimally is more important and beneficial for everyone (and should be the focus of the discussion).

bankroll considerations as a modifier (risk of ruin, staying in action), are also important topics on how to play a hand. it is also useful to see some very good players would take a sub-optimal way to play a hand given bankroll, instead of being an ice-cold robot that ignores those factors.

Untill a few months ago I played 5-10+ at foxwoods a ton and for the life of me cant think of anybody named jason...and definetly don't know who you are....

I 99 percent I know who hero in the hand is and given how he plays(pretty aggressive and bluff happy) this should be a reraise on flop almost always.

Sent you a pm.