3 limps, I make it $65 with AA in MP2. Tight TAG in CO calls. TAG limper from UTG calls. Tight short-stack in UTG+1 calls.

Stacks:
- me $1k
- Short-stack ~ $600
- TAGs cover me

Flop ($265): A63

UTG checks, HJ checks, I check, TAG in the CO bets $110. Tag UTG calls, HJ folds, I call.

My thought was that after a big raise PF on such a dry board with top set if I bet I will fold out most hands, and if someone has 66/33 they are going to bet for me and it won't change the outcome of the hand. By c/c-ing here I am under-repping my hand and make it look like I am going for pot-control on a board where there is very little risk of being drawn out on. Thoughts on this plan?

Turn ($595): A638

UTG checks. Should I lead here and if so how much? Now that there are more draws on the board I am leaning towards leading, but am curious what people think about other lines, like c/r or c/c, lead river.

As played lead turn.

To elaborate, lead turn > c/c lead river > c/r turn. Leading induces potential bluff-raises and gets some minute value from bare eights, whereas they might otherwise check back. C/c lead river is debatable but when your hand is so absurdly strong its kind of a disaster if it gets checked through. C/r is terribad for obvious reasons.

I'd also just bet the flop on the smallish side, like $90 or so. You'd be surprised at how light people peel on that board, or better yet spazz-raise. Plus it's really not that hard in a four way pot for one of them to have the case ace.

What sizing would you use for those who think leading turn is best?

cbet flop small. there aren't that many turns that will get you a lot of action w/out giving you the second best hand. C/C is better than C/R tho as C/R shuts out everything thats not 2P+. A turn donk is terrible. HTF does donking turn induce bluff-raises? You can't have a bluffing range when you donk turn and villain doesn't sound like the type to attack a strong range. villain's turn betting range is wider than his calling range so just C/C turn and hope he bets the river.

i think bet/bet/bet is a much better line here.

c/r the flop since it went bet/call in front of you is way cool

I tend to bet-bet-bet in these spots. Unless you have significant spaz in your range in the other players' view, I think if you c/c the flop, you c/c the turn at the risk of checking through, especially if you have the ace of clubs. Would 4c5c just take a free card? Prolly not but depends on the player, and you still are not gonna put him on just one hand.

I don't mind c/c flop, but I would most likely lead. Looks suspicious to check call A-high board as pf raiser as once it got back to you with more than one player in, you would likely fold TT-KK there.

I would lead $275-$300 on turn to allow for easy river shove.

I always bet this out smallish (~110 LOL) too, like I have JJ or whatever. It does induce spew and if someone else is slowplaying a set you'll know=big $'s. Also get calls from Ax's of course and other things people play badly.

Curious on what UTG has here?

I def wouldnt c/r flop

I like flop, I check-raise turn

Bet/Bet/Bet probably is the standard.

However, I don't mind check on flop given the virtual lock you have on the hand. A bet isn't capturing dead money b/c opponents have very little equity against you and tough to get value from many likely holdings.

Even if it checks around on flop, you allow someone to draw to a playable hand that is still worse than your hand.

Flop line does make turn look a little strange. You can't risk turn checking through after someone has shown some strength so turn is a definite bet IMO.

Warning: this type of situation isn't that common. Don't get used to slow playing.

I lead turn for $350 to set up shove OTR. Everyone folded. I felt a little sad but wasn't sure if I got the most out of the hand, or if by playing it this way I made my perceived range look super strong. I kind of considered just barrelling small, and HU I would, but I felt 3-way people were a lot less likely to float/bluff raise/etc, and they had very narrow value ranges if any with which they could possibly continue.

People will often take stabs at the pot when checked to, especially when it's pretty big, like on this turn. Your hand is still nearly immortal, backdoor fd, but who cares, I'm still checking.

I can see you were setting up a river shove. However, if it gets checked around, you probably weren't getting 2 more streets of value anyway. If somebody has something to call turn and call river, they are likely to bet turn themselves.

I think inducing is more important here, than worrying about getting value on both turn and river.

Ps. Not being result oriented.

gotta check the turn, after just calling the flop, leading the turn doesnt make sense. this isnt really a spot where you can be trying to build a pot after the flop line you took. like whatido said, you cant really worry too much about a backdoor flush. your hand is super strong, too strong almost. even if CO checks, this may induce a river bet by the utg. if not, it allows u to get some value on the river possibly more often than u do by leading the turn.

Don't like it. The problem is you give up the initiative, so when you wake up later in the hand it's pretty easy to put you on a slowplayed AA or AK. By making a weak/defensive bet as if you had JJ-KK, your range isn't limited to monsters. Half pot seems good here as you'll get one street of value out from weaker aces, two streets from AJ-AK, and can stack aces up and lower sets. You may even get floated, and at least you're charging the straight draws while maintaining the betting lead. Your plan for a lower set to bet it out for you is the part I disagree with most - you're gonna stack a lower set no matter what anyway, so just do your own betting. Bet half pot again on turn.

You can second guess yourself all you want but the reality is that you aren't going to make much money when you have the deck crippled on boards like that. If one of those guys had a set it wouldn't matter how you played it, they're doubling you up with 100bb. I'd bet half pot otf some % of the time and check some %. Depends on what image I wanted to create, villains tendencies, etc.

To me you have a decision.

1. Play it fast and stack 66/33/A6/A3 on the flop, which will probably happen if they have it, problem is it is hard for them to have those hands.

2. Slowplay to induce and/or allow opponents to catchup. More likely to happen, problems are that you may never induce anything, they will not pay you as much OTT/OTR if they did flop two pair+, and you can get outdrawn at the river. Also once you do wake up, people are suspicious.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of slowplaying. If you decide to go the second route as played, when you get the bet and then a call OTF, I like a raise. Traps dead money, and you already got two bets in there.

If you take the stance that you are only making money if they have two pair+, more reason to take route #1 imo.

this hand really is player dependent...against some good players, bet bet bet is best option. against some avg tight players i think u have to slowplay. theres just not much at all anyone can defend with on that board. while the case A isnt out of the question, simple math determines you cant rely on that being a huge part of anyones range. it is also very difficult to flop a set, let alone set over set. finally, its extremely difficult to get paid off in spots like this unless its a cooler type hand(set over set) so being results oriented in this spot as far as profit is impossible.