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12-09-2008 , 10:00 AM

wallstreetpro

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8 sessions ago I moved up from previously averaging $500 per session on 5 / 5 for the last several months.

Since the move I am averaging -500 at 5 /10.

I think, I know what I'm doing wrong .

At 5 /5 my raises where strong enough but at 5 /10 even though I am raising proportionately I'm getting too many callers.

Varience or get my ass back down fast?

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12-09-2008 , 11:22 AM

RosaParks

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Wat? More callers is a good thing...

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12-09-2008 , 12:30 PM

wallstreetpro

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Originally Posted by RosaParks

Wat? More callers is a good thing...

I'm a TAG player so with AK I don't want 4 people to see the flop.

I've been raising 10x the bb and sometimes even more.

Then when I do bluff I'm getting called on dangerous boards when I know my villains have nothing but top pair.

In any event I'm sure this is a silly thread to start in the first place. I'm going back down but I was just wanted to see if there was something that I might be missing.

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12-09-2008 , 12:38 PM

novel20

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I think you need to raise bigger. May be 20bb? Also sometimes shove all in preflop with any two cards. You can't let them see some cheap flops.

Also, you should move up to where people respect your raise. You will have less bad beats playing with better players.

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12-09-2008 , 01:19 PM

Ricky1231

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I have to disagree with you here Rosa, more callers negates a huge part of your edge when you have the initiative preflop and when you have a decent hand.

OP you answered your own question here. If people always call your raises than start raising a really tight range in situations where you will get a lot of callers. Also start raising a bunch more preflop. Just experiment and see what people will call preflop, once you have that figured out you can own them. I played in a 10/20 game last year where I was opening to 260 w/ <4k effective stacks and getting 2 callers everytime. It's like printing money.

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12-11-2008 , 03:42 AM

tcoach

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point is to isolate....so no, more callers is NOT good generally speaking

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12-11-2008 , 05:57 PM

WorldsBiggestNit

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Originally Posted by novel20

lol

yeah, you should probably stick to 5/5 for a while.

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12-13-2008 , 09:17 PM

BoyItalia

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10 bb raises and you are getting 4 callers. Where do you play?

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12-13-2008 , 11:01 PM

DoubleFly

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This 5/10 game seems very beatable. I would fall over myself trying to sit at a table like this. Play your premium hands strongly and add more multiplayer hands (all prs, scs, etc) to your mix. Part of being a good poker player (and most of the fun) is figuring out how to beat players with suboptimal strategies.

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12-15-2008 , 09:27 PM

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dspade

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have to play your position in these games.. Don't build pots with marginal hands o/p & raise more i/p..

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12-20-2008 , 03:14 PM

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onlinebeginner

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Originally Posted by BoyItalia

10 bb raises and you are getting 4 callers. Where do you play?

at a casino in a deepstacked game

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12-21-2008 , 06:16 AM

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kauboy

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try to isolate fish.... lduhh obv

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02-06-2009 , 07:43 PM

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MLonghorn

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1. I think you have forgot what the main reason you are raising i.e. value. If 4 people call amazing hit TPTK and blast away on the flop

2. If this is the case I want some of this action

3. If your getting outplayed post-flop tigthen your range, with four loose callers you'll you can get ur stack in good

4. Isolate fish: Given the thread it may be difficult

5. 10x BB is a bad line unless your range is so tight that your exploitable, in which case never

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