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12-01-2021 , 01:56 AM

hyperknit

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5/10 e1K
Hero opens MP KKhd to 30.
SB reg to 120.
Hero to 260.
SB calls.
530) flop A96hhh
X hero bets 130.
V calls.
790) turn Qh
X hero bets 200 v calls.
1190) riv 4x
X hero bets 380 all in.

Line check?

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12-01-2021 , 06:08 AM

josofo

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Obviously it’s a weird flop for are hand. I kind of like your bet size. I would of just bet 200 and shove turn.

But your line is ok. But on this particular runout I think milking him with smaller bets is decent. If villain calls your 4 bet with any ace, the turn is tough spot vs your small bet.

Then the river pot is huge and if he has like ak he might toss it the call because pot odds

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12-01-2021 , 08:00 AM

CallMeVernon

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I don’t like the flop bet but I like everything else.

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12-01-2021 , 02:54 PM

Mr Spyutastic

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What hands are you checking turn with?

I like it, I think I play it similarly.

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12-01-2021 , 04:03 PM

Spanishmoon

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Turn is weird here.

V cannot continue to the river without a set. We have the board paralyzed unless V has exactly JhTh.

Given this fact, I'd rather jam it in on the turn rather than offer V good IO (~8-1) to pair the board on river. H is not folding any river. So for me, the small bet on turn is pointless.

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12-01-2021 , 04:19 PM

browni3141

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Originally Posted by Spanishmoon

He can have AQ and any pair with a heart that will call a small turn bet.

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12-01-2021 , 04:21 PM

jvds

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Looks good, maybe a little bigger pre

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12-01-2021 , 06:01 PM

caesarofthesky

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I would love to learn more about the pre-flop 4 bet sizing in this spot.

In general, it looks a bit smaller than my typical sizing, but I think it's because I have a more value-heavy 4bet range, so I go for ~2.5-3x IP, and 3x-3.5x OOP (100BB deep). This typically leaves me with ~1 bet post flop.

postflop: I like flop bet, but I probably just ship it on the turn (feels like how I would play my bluffs - though I probably only have KK w/out the Kh and KQ as bluffs here)

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12-05-2021 , 10:45 PM

spaceman Bryce

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I think it’s beautiful. < 3

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12-07-2021 , 12:44 PM

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Jarretman

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flop you bet too big otherwise nh

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12-07-2021 , 05:34 PM

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hyperknit

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Originally Posted by Jarretman

flop you bet too big otherwise nh

Tell me more

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12-07-2021 , 06:21 PM

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Jarretman

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Originally Posted by hyperknit

Tell me more

Bet smaller its a better size otf, like 10%

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12-07-2021 , 07:55 PM

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browni3141

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Originally Posted by Jarretman

Bet smaller its a better size otf, like 10%

I know this is a good sizing in theory, but I'd like to see your reasoning explained.

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12-08-2021 , 12:14 PM

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Jarretman

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well first of all you can bet range for 10% but you can't bet range for 25% so it's simpler

also it's a better size because villain has a lot of hands that are inelastic folds regardless of size like KsQs and using a size this small allows us to leverage our range's advantage which in this case is a higher weighting of AK and QQ, KK (QQ and KK no heart betting for 25% is a too thin)

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