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5/10 Line Check for 2 hands, check/raise or lead out to max value 5/10 Line Check for 2 hands, check/raise or lead out to max value

03-03-2012 , 09:48 PM
It's a super soft friday night table, table is super loose pre (almost always 3/4 to the flop) and full of calling stations

Hero: Normally plays really LAG, couple people know that and was joking w/ me about how I stacked them last time w/ 36s ect.. others are unknown and hear the conversation, but playing TAG today since I cant isolate anyone

Hand 1:
Villain is calling station and playing like 75% of hands

Hero: ~$7,000
Villain (Button) ~$3,000

Hero is dealt AQ in the CO

Hero raises to $40 in CO, Button Calls, SB calls, BB folds

Flop, $130
A89

check, hero bets $100, button calls, fold

Turn $330

Q

hero bets $210, villain calls

River $750

7

hero? would you check raise here or just bet like $550 expecting any A to call you. Villain is a calling station, I don't think he can ever get away from any A, but probably won't bet it himself, and river completes some 2 pairs that won't fold to a check raise. But I;m not sure if villain bluffs missed diamonds?

Hand 2:

Villain 1 is tilted, super loose and a massive fish (plays like 50%+ hands, villain 2 is unknown.
Hero is normally LAG but has been playing TAG for last couple hours.

Hero (BB): $5,000
Villain 1 (CO): $4,000
Villain 2 (Button): ~$1,500

Hero is dealt J10 in the BB

Preflop:
Villain 1 raises to $50, Villain 2 Calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop ($200)

678

Hero checks, Villain 1 bets $100, Villain 2 calls, Hero calls

Turn ($500)

Q

Hero checks, Villain 1 bets $350, Villain 2 Calls, Hero Calls

River ($1550)

9

Hero?

Again, not sure if i should check raise or lead out. I felt like if i lead out strong, only a 10 can call me? also, if i were to lead out, a 10 would only call and not raise. Also, Villain 1 is bad enough to get stacks in with a naked 10 (thinking it is the nuts), and villain 2 doesn't have enough chips to fold it. Also.. I have the 10 in my hand... so harder for people to show up with a 10...
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03-04-2012 , 03:24 AM
Hand 1:

Don't really see you being beat here, any combination straight and flush draw cards which beat you would definitely see a raise on the flop and turn from villain. I would say a check raise would probably work in this situation. You rep a busted flush draw allowing the LAG villain to try and bluff/buy the pot.

Hand 2:

Definite check here. You're not going to get called by worse with a four card straight out, and anyone with a 10 will bet it. I would make a large over bet on the check raise to get a call from a 10 if someone is thinking chop. If either villain bets with air on the river, they're folding to any size, so an overbet check raise seems appropriate here.
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03-04-2012 , 04:19 AM
Hand 1:

Bet for value on river. 10J is possible but his other possible holdings mostly Ax far outweigh the fact your ahead now. If he had a set you should have been raised by now. There are alot more hands he calls with and loses than calls with and wins. You don't want him checking behind with his weak hands that he would call not bet with.

Hand 2:

Check. Betting doesn't have a lot of value unless there is a 10 and the lone 10 is going to bet anyway so check and raise the 10 and let him tank and call for a chop. Or let someone behind rep a 10 to try and win the $1550 pot if everyone checks to LP.
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03-04-2012 , 04:41 PM
Bigger on turn in hand 1, definitely bet the river, not even close. I like a check in hand 2, but vs someone who is a massive station and passive I think leading big is probably good.
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03-05-2012 , 02:07 AM
1. Bet

2. C/R Huge
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03-05-2012 , 02:20 AM
Hand 1) is a clear bet. the 7 doesnt make too many 2 pair combos and if he is a calling station, he will likely call this blank river.

Hand 2) I would probably have taken a more aggressive action on an earlier street with such a big hand. The way you played it, I would checkraise huge in the hopes that he has a ten, because he will probably call a shove. When you lead into the field you look super strong, especially after calling and the board bringing a 4 straight. Because you look so strong, you are unlikely to get called by hands as strong as sets, and should therefore check in the hopes that he bets as a bluff, as a mistaken value bet, or has a straight that might call a big raise.
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03-05-2012 , 02:39 AM
1.) Obvious bet, large against this particular villain

2.) Disagree strongly with the check/raising advice. This is a perfect spot for a fake block bet. The small block bet will get calls from hands that will check behind, raises from bluffs, raises from Ts and maximize your value. Against a villain with potential for spew it's the obvious play.
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03-05-2012 , 03:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
1.) Obvious bet, large against this particular villain

2.) Disagree strongly with the check/raising advice. This is a perfect spot for a fake block bet. The small block bet will get calls from hands that will check behind, raises from bluffs, raises from Ts and maximize your value. Against a villain with potential for spew it's the obvious play.
winner...

but opponents do need to be sophisticated enough to "see" block-ish looking bets and be capable of raising them as a bluff.
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03-05-2012 , 04:52 AM
Hand 2 I probably just donk pot, if only because Villain 1 is the least likely to have a ten in his hand so it gives him a chance to frustratingly call with a set or whatever. If we check, V1 checks, V2 valuebets and we c/r then it makes it so V1 will snap fold everything except a ten, which like I said is unlikely to be in his hand given his betting twice into to players on that board. V2 is always going to overcall with a ten anyway so donking huge gives us the best opportunity to get some monies from V1.
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