Eff 175BB

V just moved from a broken table not long ago. V looks reggish and comfortable at the table but unknown.

This hand is 4 or 5 handed.

V opens 35 from UTG, folds to hero on BB 3bet to 140 with JhJc, V tanks 5 secs and calls.

Flop 8d9hQh. Pot 295
Hero Bet 170, V calls. I'm not entirely sure I like my betting. This board smashes V's range. I should have check my entire range here, But I was afraid V might not think I ever check over pair here so I have to c/c flop and c/fold a lot of turn when V could be overbluffi ng.

Turn Tc Pot 635

I decide to check as I don't have many J in may range probably only AJ and JJ here.

I'd check AA/KK here almost always, I either like to let V rep J or value bet worse with sets.

V bet 450, Hero calls (any merit c/jam here?)

River 3d Pot 1535

as plan, Hero checks again










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I think 3! pre is debatable given you're oop against an unknown somewhat deep. Flop is a pretty clear check to me for the reasons you have stated already. This hand in particular is very good to have in your checking range because you heavily block the nuts. V will also be more prone to pot controlling TP type hands on this board against a 3!. This hand also plays much better on run outs that are terrible for the other check calling hands in your range. The actual turn is a perfect example.

I can't imagine villains range betting river unless it improves or you're chopping. For that reason I like c/jamming turn to deny equity and hope my opponent makes a mistake. Especially without any reads. I'm curious what your plan was on a river heart or paired board assuming villain shoves.

Wouldnt have 3b or cbet (especially for that size). C/c any bet now.

Its 4 or 5 handed game. If you are not 3betting JJ, are you only 3betting QQ+ AK?

I was planning to definitely call Ah river as I have Jh with blocks some of his flush combos. I would probably call some heart river as well.

I'd probably fold to paired board river though..



The more I think about it, I kinda feel c/jam is better even though I dont really have a check/jam bluff range here

Guys it's 4-5 handed (honestly, there's a pretty big difference to his range if it's 4h or 5h utg, but meh), 3-bet with JJ is standard.

I'm really not a fan of the flop bet. You're correct that you should probably be checking almost your whole range on this flop, but JhJ is probably the single hand that most prefers checking.

C/C turn, check river is the only option once you get there.

Don't worry I brought heavy reinforcements for this one

Oh thats my bad. I should read more. The 3b is fine. Still probably not cbetting though.

Brought in the reinforcements and they couldn't get past the flop play, sorry, they say always check flop. I think as played it's quite interesting because I think villain has way too many bluffs on turn so there might be merit to check calling all rivers. That might be assuming some reads on villain, so I think the easiest/clear profitable play as played is check jam turn.

Your flop reasoning made my head hurt.

What is the question (other than should you c/jam turn, which also hurt my head a little- no, you shouldn't even consider it imo)?

should you c/jam turn, which also hurt my head a little- no, you shouldn't even consider it imo

What's your thoughts on turn/river play?


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I would take the same exact line and check/call river.

3b pre is debatable with no info 170bb deep facing a UTG open. I like how you played the hand. If he has a clue he should still be betting all his sets and 2 pairs on the river. Its good to be balanced here aswell because you will have AA/KK alot here and will have to c/f.

Shoving turn sounds crazy!

I like leading river and getting a WTF did he call turn/lead river with call

You'd bet flop?