Villain seems to be a rec, have not played with him other than 5 or so hours this day. Seems to be somewhat thinking, has bluffs, but has weird sizing sometimes, donks in weird spots.

Table broke to heads up. 5/10 $3,390 effective. Time rake. Hero on button with AsQh. Hero raises to $25, villain raises to $75, hero 4 bets to $200, villain 5bets to $625, hero tank calls.

Flop $1,250 Ah5h3h, villain bets $450, hero calls.

Turn $2,150 Ah5h3h8c villain checks. $2,315 behind. Hero?

What's his 5bet range? I liked everything until you called the 5bet but I woulda folded there (*flying by the seat of my pant here since I don't play or pretend to know how to play heads up).

As played I would check back the turn, even if we jam he's probably sigh calling with AK even though he would fold everything else like QQ/KK but he would also probably check the river as well so my goal here would be to get to SD. If he checks the river I'm also checking back. We have SD value against the lower end of his range.

Edit: Udh didn't realize it was HU ... assumed normal 3/4 handed short game. Maybe pre is std. HU.


Not really sure what to do on turn, both checking and shoving feel not great ... maybe a genius play to bet half pot, but I'm dubious if we get enough folds and I don't think I'd want to play flushes that way.


Backing up ... I think I shove flop, if I do the math correctly, about the only hand we are crushed by is AxKh. Maybe we don't shove KhQh on flop, but I'd be fine shoving QhJh or worse flushes.


Backing up ... depending on if V is SB or BB depends on how much we should 4bet AQo (according to robots) and they have different frequencies at 200bb and 400bb _BUT_ 200bb vs. SB is the only spot where AQo calls 5bets and H only 4bets ~25% and V 5bets 1.8x not 3.25x.

Yeah, I contemplated a fold pre. I know villain is doing some things that make sense like he 3bet with A7s, but I don't know if he is finding 5bet bluffs since this is a very esoteric spot, especially for someone who doesn't study or play heads up. His 3bet size is too small and 5bet too big, so maybe that alone and assuming he is underbluffing is enough to fold. Seemed like thay would be a deviation though, at least if he used normal 5bet sizing according to GTO Wizard heads up.

The other thing I contemplated was 6bet jamming, but I think we're too deep and against someone who may not have a 5bet fold range it seemed even more dubious.

just call pre the first time, and now fold to 5bet assuming it's not very close vs any rec and even most regs

he flop size screams AK no heart, potentially KhKx also, i dont expect much else tbh

I think you can get away with bet turn small, xb riv; only way you get punished is if he jams turn with KhKx and you have to fold or if you think spazzes exist in his range, then xb turn call riv

pre is closer to a pure call than a pure 4b. i do think you're setting yourself up to lose a very large pot by peeling the 5b even if its "correct" vs a smaller 5b size. have correct in air quotes because while it never folds this is not a hand you want to have in 5bc range here at 100% frequency. jamming pre insane torch imo. even at equilibrium (vs smaller 5b but less behind) its like a 7 bb mistake to jam compared to call and the idea random is finding the random 5b bluffs is way too optimistic. there's people its absolutely great against but you need solid evidence of that before putting 350 bb into a range that has u smoked

post kind of interesting. solver is betting like 20% and calling off xrai which uh i think is going to be a mistake vs most everyone. in practice i think id just x turn and see what happens esp if we're only looking for one street of value

This. Very solid post.

are you custom solving these hands or something? can u post the sim where its jamming turn? i pretty much never see it using anything but 15% ott as ip (which tracks with how lock down boards get played). i see it pure betting AxQh and mixing no H combos where it mixes vs x jam. im just using gto wizard's 300 bb solve but the turn spr is fairly close to the actual hand.

Jamming turn seems super awful to me. I can't imagine you ever in a million years get called by a worse hand. And you're not really protecting against anything.

I think PF should just be a fold to the 5bet.

Interesting hand only because most players don't know how to play heads up at all, and the number of people who ar going to have much experience of a 5bet pot 300+ BB deep in a heads up pot will be infinitesimally small.

I would fold to the 5bet but after that anything I did would be clicking buttons so I won't pollute the thread with unwanted opinions.

I looked at gto wizard 300bb also.

It puts the most pressure on AKc and KKh.

It might still be awful, but I'd prefer it to checking back and folding brick rivers. I'm not shocked robots bet small, but I'm not sure I'd trust most other people's responses to be correct.

My vote would've been between small turn bet and check back. Jamming seems quite bad.

And agree with calling first time and folding to 5bet.

I ran it w/ these assumptions for the pf ranges.

Villain:



Hero:



Flop suggests splitting between 40% and 2/3 for Villain.

Vs Villain's 1/3 it's always calling w/ AxQh and folding about a third of the combos that have no heart.

On the turn solver suggests betting 70% of the time for 2/3 for villain.
Mostly QQ is checking w/ some AA.

It's checking w/ Hero's hand 100% when checked to. Mostly checking all of the AQo combos.
Just some of the betting coming from the non-heart combos.

It suggests 40% for turn sizing when you do bet with most of the bets coming from AK and JJ. This feels intuitively right to me.

The problem is that this is the PF range you're using for villain vs your 4bet when just using the regular solves for HU.

It's just my guess, but I'd say this is probably way off and the one I used is much closer to reality.

Even still it never jams your hand and prefers the very small bet so I'm curious how/where you are seeing that.

Yeah and I'm saying it's not doing that...

My bad i thought you meant for AQh only

Never mind, BB can jam some AQo no hearts on turn, not SB.

I probably do something stupid like 1/3rd PSB OTT. Should be for value and gives us lots of options on river.