Villain is a eastern european omaha reg. He usually plays 5/10/25 and is waiting for a seat in the game. He is a pretty solid holdem player from what I ve seen so far and is agressive preflop, saw him 3bet a few times in the past couple of hours. However I havent seen any of his showdowns posts so far and I am not sure of how he plays or how bluff heavy he could be.

SB is a fun player. Massive spot.

Hero image is reggy. Pretty tight so far as I havent had any hads to play.


OTTH
$2,500 effective
Hero $40 UTG JJ, Villain call BTN, SB call.

Flop ($130): 862. Hero $75, BTN $250, Hero call.

Turn ($640): 4. Hero check, BTN $440, hero?

did SB fold on the flop?

Yes he c/f

meh kinda tough spot. i dont mind folding flop.

Yea his range on the button is pretty wide with all kinds of suited connector combos im guessing. Calling on the turn is pretty much committing you to a giant river bet which you literally may be drawing dead to.

it is damn tough spot on this clean board with JJ.

V knows that your range are likely to capped and one pair here when you opened UTG and you are very tight.

I don't mind folding the flop against this V. But folding JJ here is so nitty that we don't have a continuing range on this flop if we fold JJ here to a single raise

He is not a fish raising top pair or 99 here to see where he is at.

He either has 2P or straight draw, and none of them would shut down on the turn. You can't call flop and hope him to shut down on the turn.

He has 22, 66, 88, 68s, 57s, 79s. I don't have equilab now, but you can plug in this range and see what your equity is like

If he is truly aggro, he might have some pair + BDFD, Guttor + BDFD (9Ts). I would by default not putting this into his range without enough info on his postflop play

By calling his flop raise you pretty much flip your cards over.

he doesnt have 2p

tbh i think whats important is his vpip % cold call button vs ep. like if he is vpiping 2 wide here hell have a chance to see many bluffs compared to his very narrow value range. vs some looser preflop strategies, with lower 3b% otb than i like calling down somewhat freqently

are you recomending raising???

theres close to a 0% chance of knowing that after 2 hours in a live game imo, dont you think?

Lol V calls on the BTN deep. How come he can't have 68s?


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idk. usually u can tell alot about ppls strategies with a few rounds around the table or one or two showdowns.

well. yea.

^ how come he cant have 2p then?

+1 from a good player I dont think he has 2p here from a goodplayer (at least not a maximum value play with 86 IP and 64 would be an odd call)
2p is possible but unlikely

for me this is straight or pair +straight draw and eventual FD.

a decent omaha player especially IP you can be sure to have a tough decision on the river too...

AP if you have a fun player you cover at the table i think there is better spot to make money

I'd do a game tree analysis if I was you. You should have sets on this flop since you are 250bb deep and need to be raising pre with small pairs to have better board coverage.

Figure out your UTG range and what you bet here on the flop. How much % of your range do you need to fold for villain to insta-profit by raising flop? Start with that.

Intuitively I'd call flop, fold turn, figuring that this hand falls into the portion of my range I'm supposed to fold to be balanced.. My goal against unknown people is to call and fold with the right frequencies, dropping the right amount of hands at each betting street and continuing with the better ones (also taking into account blocking of opponents value hands and bluff hands)

Oh, and it's also possible he'd just call with a 2pair+ type hand to get SB involved in the pot, well depends how massive of a fish SB is, if SB will call a bet and a raise with just 1 pair then yeah he'd raise.

This is silly; how do we play any of our sets except by flatting?

I'd fold flop though, esp. with sb dynamic.

He can easily have many 2 pairs here. Even 82s and 62s can easily be profitable calls preflop given the presence of the SB, the fact that you are 250bb deep with lots of play postflop and he is in position. Of course if he has these in his range he also has tons of garbage that can figure it wants to bluff here.

I think it's important for us to bluffcatch with the right frequencies here given our own range and definitely to protect our calling range by never reraising with sets.

It's not true that if you call one street to bluffcatch you gotta call the next one cause villain will never stop bluffing. This is a canard often repeated. You simply defend the adequate portion of your range.

62s and 82s are never going to be +ev cold call vpips here.

what should villain's range look like roughly pre? don't really play nl, but 82s is not even close. even stuff like 85s and 96s is a snap fold imo. kind of a stretch even with 1gappers

I call flop and I'd be pretty tempted to call down now. This turn is, IMO, a turn that brings more semi-bluffs than made hands. The main gutshot and oesd are still out, while some of his club bluffs picked up equity to continue barreling. I think folding is fine though since you have no club and your overpair isn't very high. Not that I think he could have QQ+, but if you had AA here it would help that a hand like KcQc or Ad7d has fewer outs to improve over your hand.

If it weren't obvious, I'm really not a fan of putting eastern European omaha players on an 11 combo range.

Curious what everyone's frequencies are for opening 22-66 UTG. A 'massive spot' will derail strategies so significantly that there's really no further analysis to be had without knowing his tendencies preflop (given cold 4-bet opp) and postflop.

Fold at tougher tables with lots of pf 3 betting and tougher opponents who are ip

Open at most tables

In hand posted- it sounds nitty but i dont hate folding flop.