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5-10 , facing an overbet in 3bet pot 5-10 , facing an overbet in 3bet pot

09-04-2022 , 05:47 PM
5-10 2k effective 6 handed

Main vilain utg raises to 30, very good reg , probably top 10 in the player pool at my local casino. Capable of bluffing , recognizes his spots.

Hero btn 3bets to 100 with Td9d. I should be viewed as a tag reg probably on the nittier side.

Sb action player reg fish cold calls the 100
Bb action player reg fish as well cold calls the 100

Utg calls

Flop (400) KdKcTh

C/c/c/c

Turn (400)

KdKcTh 8s

C/c/c/c

River (400) KdKcTh 8s7h

Both blinds check quickly looking pretty finished with the hand. Utg tanks a bit and bets 600, hero thinking about being a hero
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09-04-2022 , 08:50 PM
Wouldn't hero call as played. Not sure why Hero doesn't find a cbet on flop or turn.
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09-04-2022 , 09:17 PM
Calling him is spewy, button-clicking. The only one of his value hands you’re blocking is TT—he still has every AK, KQ and KJ and 88 and 77 in his range.

You missed a mandatory bet on the Turn (for equity denial/cheap showdown).

I guess if you could explain WHY you played this hand the way you did it would help.
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09-04-2022 , 09:35 PM
Why not bet flop $100? You can have any part of that board and you're rarely checking a king.
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09-04-2022 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Calling him is spewy, button-clicking. The only one of his value hands you’re blocking is TT—he still has every AK, KQ and KJ and 88 and 77 in his range.

You missed a mandatory bet on the Turn (for equity denial/cheap showdown).

I guess if you could explain WHY you played this hand the way you did it would help.
I def thought about betting turn for the reasons you mentioned i opted to check back for pot control and to bluffcatch some rivers.

But yeah either way its close obviously.
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09-05-2022 , 05:08 AM
Was there any way you could have foreseen the blinds calling? Sometimes with certain table dynamics this is something that can be predicted, and if that's the case here, I don’t like this 3bet pre at all. Also, this seems like a mandatory bet on the turn, if the blinds are indeed just action players who basically never have QQ/JJ here.

I don’t wanna bluffcatch the river for this sizing. He can have it.
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09-05-2022 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Homey D. Clown
Was there any way you could have foreseen the blinds calling? Sometimes with certain table dynamics this is something that can be predicted, and if that's the case here, I don’t like this 3bet pre at all. Also, this seems like a mandatory bet on the turn, if the blinds are indeed just action players who basically never have QQ/JJ here.

I don’t wanna bluffcatch the river for this sizing. He can have it.
Im assuming they’re cold calling top 20% of hands

4% chance that they both call and 64% chance that none of them call.

So yes it was a bit surprising that they both called.
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09-05-2022 , 09:05 AM
I would be very puzzled by his overbet on the river. Why would'nt he bet Kx/TT on the turn with to reg fishes in the hand? If he bets that most of the time, that leaves him with air or 77 on the river. But why would he overbet bluff the river with to recreational players in it? Do they fold often enogh to do this? I mean obviously everybodies range is capped. Think he'll get folds the overwhelming amount of the time. Therefore it is a decent bluff spot. Do understand hero to be tempted to call this. But he would need to bluff this really often to make a good call. I'd let it go but not be to happy about it.

Btw you should have bet the turn.

For the sake of this thread I hope you called him anyway and can tell us what he had.
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09-05-2022 , 02:40 PM
Mostly cbet flop as your entire range would. Your hand got great properties with BD. Also for equity denial.

Betting turn is now mandatory for equity denial.

If you had bet flop or turn I would be ok with folding river but ap he’s repping exactly KK or 77…very narrow. However he has a lot more bluff combos, bluff catching seems appropriate when you get to the river this way - way underepping your hand - vs this profile
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