Hero (covers), prolly seen as a LAG, villian saw me squeeze w/ 36s and flop a straight and get stacks in
Villian (~1200), young aggro, seems kind of bad, seems to be calling a lot of my raises and trying to battle me after he saw me 3bet the 36s

Hero gets A5 MP

Hero raise to 40 MP, call, villian calls, sb calls

POT(170)
227

hero bets 160, fold, villian calls, fold

TURN(490)
5
check, hero bets 350, villian tanks for ~30 seconds and calls

River (1190)
K
hero?
a) check call
b) shove
(villain has ~700 behind)

dont think villian is good enough to value bet a pair under the K if checked to, and will probably turn all his missed flush draws into a bluff
a ship myself can prolly fold out his pair of 7s, 88, 99, 1010 hands?

which line do u think is more optimal? appreciate thoughts on all streets, thanks

I'm a bit confused. Which position is villain? He checked the turn to you but now you're first to act on the river?

Going to assume villain is BTN and you made a typo on the turn:

Bet a little less OTF, triple barreling river is good against most people

Edit: sorry he didnt check the turn, was a typo, I am OOP, he was on CO

Actually think river might be a cfold, seems unlikely vill has air and probably isn't going to vbet hands you beat.

short answer is neither. prolly ch/fold is the best.

he ain't folding 7x, 88-JJ on the river when you shove.

and if he does have a flush draw a lot of them are KhXh flush draws. he can have all the nuts. and with you having the Ah it cuts down on a lot of possible bluff combos he could have.

i probably triple barrel here.

If you're not bluffing this river I'm not seeing much reason to bet the turn.

pretty ez shove here otr

if he calls down all the time with the hands you mentioned its a leak vs villains utg range. make a note and reload
sick brag w the 36s squeeze though

Not sure why river can be a check fold tho, his only value combos would be KQ/KJ of heart, or 77, and will bluff w/ all his missed flush draws (every other suited connector), and unlikely to bet w/ A7, 88, 99 ext

Anybody feel like turn check is better than firing a second bullet?
I think we pickup massive showdown value on the turn, and its unlikely villian will ever fold a better hand when you bet turn. Ie 66+ are all calling.

The only reason to fire turn is if we specifically thought villian had a flush draw (seems unlikely since we have hearts too), or if we thought villian had a better hand than us and we needed to setup a triple barrel otr. But if this villian really thinks your a lag and is trying to adjust he either
A) floated you otf and likely doesnt have your hand beat on the turn anyways
B) has 66+ or 7x and is never folding to a turn barrel anyways.

Also from a balance perspective I think you can think of much better turn cards to barrel than the 5, which really is the best turn card to check. In fact your turn barrel range should be any broadway, any 3, and any 4, which is plenty wide already. If you are barreling the 5 i would say you are barreling way too often.

As played though its a mandatory third barrel. His range otr is a ton of pairs and the unlikely missed flushdraw.
Just my two cents.

I think when we bet turn we kind of have to bet/shove river.

I think in most cases I am checking turn

check/raising the turn is probably best actually. super hard for him to continue.

My logic for betting turn is:
a) if he has a flush draw, u want him to put more money in, I think theres a lot of combos of flush draws here
b) good chance he folds 67,78 79s hands given I bet into 4 ppl, then barreled turn
not check raise because:
a) he checks back flush draws a lot
b) high chance he will check back 67/67/A7 hands to try show them down, and if he checks those back, theres no way to fold him on the river

what i thought is, do you think theres more combos of 7X, 88, 99 hands for him to get to this river or missed draws
if more 7X,88,99 hands, i think its best to shove river, since theres a good chance he will fold these (but 7X may be lower amount since he often folds it on turn)
if theres more combos of missed draws, check-calling river i think is better since we stack him
to me, if he binked the K, or had 77, i am willing to pay off
edit: im under the assumption that he is not good enough to value bet a A7 or 88 99 on that river, which im pretty certain he isnt from what ive seen

I like c/ship turn. Don't expect him to check back 7x or a mid pocket pair when checked to and we have plenty of equity if he decides to hero with those hands.

On the river I don't like c/c as your hand looks like some sort of showdown value type hand unless he's just really spewy and is super polarized and won't vb 88-JJ. Think I barely like a shove over c/f because of the wide range he's calling your pf raises with and would expect him to have more 7x hands in his range than he should have(87o, 67o, ect.). Wouldn't really expect him to fold 88+ though because of your bad image.

you say this like his bluff frequency here is 100% of the time he misses the flush though, which i dont think is the case.

you're prolly right, but reading the description of the villain and the dynamic between the hero and villain makes me believe he isn't inclined to be folding those hands once he calls flop and turn. the river is pretty much a blank.

i'm basing my advice off of the description of the villain. in theory you guys might be right about check/shoving turn, but against this guy who doesn't seem to like to fold to hero, I don't think I'd want to do it.

Plus, if I had an over pair here as villain and decided to bet the turn, it's because I'm def calling the check/shove vs. the hero. Otherwise, I'm just checking back and playing pot control.

Don't bet so much on the flop.

this guy can't have A2, 22 or 55? it's not a lot of combos. but it adds to the stuff he could have.

I don't think you can apply enough pressure on the river to get this guy to fold. you are betting only 2/3 pot.

if you think you should ch/c then you should just look at the heart combos vs value combos he could have. And that's an optimistic view, considering he might not always bluff with missed draws here.

He might have some mid pair stuff that he would not fold so I check fold river as played. He's never bluffing his missed flush draw which he should

+1

OP what was your thought process on potting flop here?

I don't mind the full psb as long as you b/b/shove you can rep a much stronger range than villain here but starting off potting to shut down when yours is pretty ******ed
As a standard this probably isn't necessary

I'd size differently throughout and prob c/r/c turn, but as played I'm check/calling river.

Edit: actually wtf we were in position on the turn .