Hero: Has a super LAG image
Villain: also has a LAG image, both of us were playing a lot of hands and bluff happy, villain has also hero called me several times, a few times being right, and a few times i show up w/ the nuts

Stacks:
Villain (CO) $4,000
Hero (Button) $2,500

Preflop:
Hero is dealt 108 in the button

CO raises to $40, Hero Calls, fold fold

Flop ($95):
236

CO bets $70, Hero raises to $220, CO calls (snap call)

Turn: 8

CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($535)

2

CO checks, hero bets $650?

I feel when CO checks to me twice, almost always has something like A6, 67, 56. I felt like my bet makes me look very polarized and just look really bluffy and a 6 will very often hero call me expecting me to have missed diamonds

villaion snaos with 10o10

It's not impossible but unlikely, he is very loose from co, and be more willing to jam flop

i'd bet half pot, why did you not bet turn (i'm assuming you'd bet if you didn't make a pair)? do you think he'd c/r that turn?! weird...

As played check behind. you do not know where you at by checking turn.

I think he is calling with more hands that beat you (primarily Ah2h,As2s,Ad2,99,1010, 66,33, 45s) then hands you beat (Ad6d, A3s, 77, 44,55,56s,57s, 67s). He may make a hero call with A6 or a lower pair. But he will be folding to your bet with his likely holdings of a low pair with a busted flush and straight draws.

Although he checked twice. You should account for the fact you raised flop so he can be waiting for you bet to reraise you with a big hand.

Your hand has showdown value right now just check. If you bet river and raised your hand has little showdown value and you will have to fold.

i think the river overbet is okay, but possibly not optimal. I'd also prefer to have played earlier streets differently.

Just bet the turn, we do valuecut ourselves sometimes but we also get value from a bunch of hands and build our own implied odds for when we bink the river.

Also if he's a barrel-happy LAG then I like flatting flop and raising turn since he'll likely fire with a lot of hands that just can't continue vs. a turn raise so we get that extra c-bet out of him.

ye i probably should have bet the turn... was a mistake now I look back, the river bet i thought was good to overbet because it makes myself looked polarized, and he will be more inclined to hero call w/ a 1 pair. Also, with such a large bet, he will be less likely to play back at me by raising a busted flush draw / straight draw.

If he thinks you are good I doubt he pays you here. I think you are way better off betting the turn, and betting a lot of rivers.

Flop raise is really bad with your image. I think I like the turn check but it's close. Agree with AAismyfriend that your river sizing is bad if he's good and he thinks you're good. Betting smaller should widen villain's calling range much more.

I considered this one for a while and I don't mind it, however I think I would be betting closer to 2/3 pot on the river. As an aside, you should be betting most blank turn cards because the river will often provide you with a bad enough board to get him to fold overpairs...

OP's line is incongruent. I'm assuming he checked behind because he didn't want to b/f himself out of the pot, which isn't terrible in position. However, now he wants to bomb river, which really doesn't make sense. You either missed clear value on the turn or you're posting a bluff with the caller as the hero.

Against this line I snap with T8 if I'm button.

yeah, thats what i thought too. turn looks like a brick but actually gives us top pair. we check because we have made hand and redraw and don't want to b/f our hand.

to be honest, i don't think we are getting c/r'ed here that often. people don't really c/r turn all that often in general so i'd feel pretty safe betting turn.

I tend to agree. With the two of you tarding it up, I wouldn't be surprise to see Villain 3-bet you here, with the intention of calling a 4-bet or open shoving most turns.
Either way, you are going to have the face

Flop raise is perfectly fine imo. Turn is a bet though with your dynamic though imo.

So much missed value on turn, I highly doubt he snapped flop just to c/r you on the turn. I would actually rather you bomb turn than river. As played it is ok, since you have decent sdv and he doesn't seem too likely to lay any pair down.

Flat flop.

I'd only flat flop if I thought he would barrel the turn with air a ton, otherwise seems like a pretty easy raise to me.

Explain...

When you flat the flop you can rep everything. A lot of times villain won't have a pair either and will check/fold turn. He's also more likely to pay you off if a flush comes (you are repping the scare card). Lastly, and more importantly, you have zero defense against a 3-bet this deep with the naked ten high flush draw. IMO.

Short answer is that by flatting we give him a chance to pot control on future streets, while by raising we can put maximum pressure and also be able to check turn back if a total brick hits while still having the initiative to vbet river if we bink or bluff scare cards that don't hit us. Getting 3bet off our hand really isn't a big deal, we have a pretty crappy flush draw and his flop 3betting range should be super strong anyway.

The LAGier your image the thinner you should v-bet against observant opponents, so I would definitely v-bet turn, since it's very easy for you to be doing this with FDs and villain should know that. Turn is a better street to get value on than river because a) there are draws that can call turn b) scare cards can come on the river that prevent villain from calling down light. As played I like the over bet as a merge given the dynamics as long as you know that you will be losing a bunch as well to hands like 99, TT, etc.

What's your plan when flop gets 3B? This deep w/Laggro dynamic your flop raising range should be fairly polarized and not inculde hands like Ten-hi FDs imo. You can get villain to fold most of the hands he'll fold on flop on with a turn bet anyways and without risking getting blown off your hand.

Maybe we are the ones who want to pot-control? Getting 3B off our hand is a pretty huge deal, we have 38% equity vs the nuts and given our reads there's no reason to believe that villain's 3B range will be super-strong. It sounds like it's somewhat likely that villain will 3B us light.

Also to those who say bet turn - I think that while we may be ahead of villain's range on turn our bet prolly has RIO. River Flush cards hit our perceived range hard and I can't think of many hands in villain's range that pay us off. We pretty much always get stacked when villain has a higher FD tho. There aren't many brick rivers that hit our perceived range. The only cards that are really good for us are a T or 8 so I just don't feel that a turn bet accomplishes a ton unless we're way ahead of his turn calling range.

This is another reason to bet the turn--get him to fold better flush draws. This works the other way around when we have the nut flush draw though--if we think a a big proportion of his range contains inferior flush draws when we have the nut flush draw, we don't mind him calling (here is where checking behind maybe could be a better play (or at least a good play)).

I don't see how you get called with worse and not called with better, considering your image.