game just started about an hour ago, i have an aggro image i think. i 3bet hand before where villain raise/folded pre and raised hand before that.

villain in this hand is the owner of the card room. he can be loose pre but seems to play solid post. seems capable of some moves as well, but not like triple barrel crazy, like one or two barrels type capable. as far as i know at least.

effective stacks 1100ish
straddled pot, villain opens for 50 otb (i think he's opening wide with this sizing as i've seen him open for 60 with premium holdings). i make it 160 from sb with ako bb who looks like an internet kid cold calls. bu calls.

flop a99c. i check, internet kid checks, villain checks.

turn 5c. i lead 240 into 480 internet kid folds, villain calls.

river Qc. i...

why chk flop? im betting flop w/ 100% of my 3b range in this spot.

i don't really know why i checked. but say i cbet 240 on the flop and get called, whats our plan for the turn and river oop?

i would tend to bet more like 200 w/ my entire range. then id either jam turn or bet real small on turn and river depending on what type of player i thought he was. some ppl just dont like calling huge bets so they might fold A8s if u jam turn but will call 240 on the turn then feel pot committed on the river or fold river but u make an extra 240 still on the turn.

I don't think you are deep enough to bet fold.

Check/decide?

lead flop kid

+1

bet bet bet

Lead the flop. As played, shove allin on river.

I like the line. Lead on flop seems "exploitable" unless you plan to definitely go all the way with your one pair.

As played, check river, play poker, prob call reasonable bet from Villain.

Is it bad to underrep my hand on the flop? With the cold caller I thought there would be more of a chance that they would put me on pairish type hand. Is this thinking flawed?

In hindsight I think I like a check/evaluate on the river seeing that I don't really see too many aces in villains range. Or I don't know. I guess I'm just clicking buttons hoping for a good result lol.

Checking the flop is fine and standard I'd say...sure, if you have history, lead the flop, but with no history, way better to let them catch something on the turn/bluff

I think checking the flop is going to freeze up action. Bet and maybe check the turn or river. Kind of an ugly river card but I think you can still value town all day here.

Bet like $125 on the flop.

As played I say bet $240 again and fold to a shove. Don't think we have to worry about this villain turning AJ or AT into a bluff. He might not even shove a flush because he will be worried about AA. I think he has AJ/AT/Axs here enough of the times that he calls.

It's not bad if you are being nice and want to give the set-miners another crack at it. Other than that, you have a spr of ~ 2:1 oop in a 3-way pot, and they will give you less credit when you lead than when you check.

The villain on the button is going to raise with any ace in his hand correct? The only reason I check the flop is if I think the villain has an ace otherwise bet the flop most of the time.

what? Please explain how betting the flop is exploitable?

what? We have TPTK in a 3b pot with 55bb effective stacks (w/ the straddle) before the 3b. Why would we do anything other than try to get all the money in any way possible?

Putting myself in Villains shoes, if Hero bet flop (with pre-flop play as described), I would think that he has exactly what he has (some sort of good Ace), and I would put him to guessing game by raising--implying that I have a 9 (which I think I can fairly easily have). Does Hero really want to stack off with so few outs if Villain has a 9?

I'm not suggesting I don't want to get all the money--I'm just not sure that this is a good flop to accomplish it. Obv if, as you suggest, Hero thinks this is a "go" flop under any circumstances, then I totally agree the line is bad.

I'm not saying other lines are not as as good or better--I'm just saying I (personally) don't find it that bad and I think I'd play it the way op did some, but not all of the time.

lol, u serious? ofc we want to stack off here. i see ******ed live players raise/c with worse Ax hands in this exact spot for no reason at all then u can literally see them telling themselves in their head that it was a cooler and there was nothing else they can do. then if ur lucky they rebuy.

Villain is going to have a 9 probably less than 10% of the time. If villain has an Ace you should try to get it in either by checking the flop and then check raising him or by betting out and hoping villain raises you on the flop and u shipping it in.

Finister18 from your post you sound like you are folding the best hand way too much and the villain at best probably has 5 9x card combos he would raise with preflop like 9,10 suited and a couple of others in his range. Stop playing like your always against the nuts.

I agree with Luciddream on the flop Im 90% at least trying to get as much money into the pot on the flop as possible. The villain is probably going to stack off with A10 or any better kicker which you are crushing on that flop.

internet kid---hmmm---if he is capable of making bold moves, i would bet small 125 on flop, maybe 200 on turn, (repping maybe QQ to him at least) and check river hoping he will either valuecut himself with an Ax OR try and shove taking you off whatever you have.

He could possibly turn JJ into a shove bluff i would think IF he is super thinking internet blah blah. Our hand is kind of face up but never check flop.

Against a routine not great player, this is easy bet bet shove. Against this guy i think we may get him to turn something into a bluff or valuecut himself far more than he will just cal call callit all off. I mean, he has like TT JJ QQ
etc. he so much of the time that Im gonna try and work that angle myself.

If I was a rapper, I woulda been like cmon son

K, guess I've got a leak here--not sure why I'm thinking this way--maybe partly due to live game I play, maybe fundamentals problem, probably I just stink. Thanks for the frank feedback.

I didn't read OP as implying that Villain was "******ed live player". In fact, description seemed to suggest Villain was pretty competent (read: not going to raise/c with worse Ax hands).

But, it seems that there is total agreement that bet flop to get ai in whatever way possible is way to go. Sorry OP, for getting thread off track!

I'm just not sure how u think he has a nine in this spot very much. The way the hand played out I would put villain on clubs before I put him on a nine. Maybe in your game they always have the nuts or real close to it against you. I'm not stating or implying you stink I just think you have to reevaluate the hand and your statement about being exploitable on the flop is hilarious.
What % of his range on the button does he open with a nine in his hand? I tend to think it can't be more than 10%, probably closer to 5%. I think he has a10 or a better kicker more than he has a nine in his hand but I could be wrong. It just seems you play real tight and are real exploitable to bluffs b/c you always think your behind. FYI I play tight but I would be wiling to get the money all in on this flop basically every time. I also don't play AK like it is the best hand in the world like many players tend to do. It is a drawing hand just like QJ if it doesn't hit. I'm guessing you like me don't like to get all in preflop in a cash game with AK.