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5/10 4 way all in with fd 5/10 4 way all in with fd

12-30-2015 , 05:57 PM
Villian 1 and 2 both have 1500. "fish has about 850. fish who is on tilt limps in. Villian#1 is avg rec player, doesn't usually play 5/10. Plays pretty straightforward, on the passive side. He's raises to 50. I call otb wit qjcc. Bb is villain 2 and calls. He plays pretty Laggy, capable of big moves,and spazzes quit often, altho he also does make good reads quite often. Flop is 875 87 of clubs. Checks to villian 1, he bets 175. I put him on 1010+ and Broadway fds I decide to raise to 600 I believe he is passive enuff to fold fds and also fold most overpairs. Maybe this is a mistake esp wit two behind. Anyways villian 2 jams for his stack like 1450. Fish calls, and villian 1 tanks for 2-3 minutes and sticks it in, pot is 4600ish and I have 850 to call. Villian one has to have a combo draw or aa for me to call here. I thought about it and cma etc conclusion he could be bad enough to call sometimes wit aa and kk.i was getting like 5.5 to 1 on my money. How often do you thinks I'm drawing dead? Should I be folding, also should I just be calling flop. Thx
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12-30-2015 , 07:14 PM
First off, format your ***** hands. This atrocious wall of text will get very little input just based on the lack of formatting.

Second, flop is awful. You're raising into what you perceive to be a super strong range that dominates you where villain will be last to act should everyone fold. Not to mention there are still two people left to act who can have sets, nfd, etc. Last, you're too shallow for this type of play. Call flop. As played stove ranges and decide.
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01-06-2016 , 06:36 AM
I hate to call-off on a non-nut flush draw multiway when there's a pretty good chance someone might have the nut flush draw and my pair-draws may not be good either.
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01-06-2016 , 10:01 AM
Looks like you're dead to running straight cards. Most likely hands they're gonna turn over are 66, 88, 55, 77, 87, 67, AK, 910.

Overall against the combined hands this is a fold.

Initial raise by you looks pretty strong cos the flop hits you're btn calling range but after the action that follows I don't care if I was getting 10 -1, I'd fold.
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01-06-2016 , 12:06 PM
Assuming Hero covers ...

We need to put in $850 to go after the side pot ($1300 profit, $1950 pot) only a $450 increase in starting stack ... What do V1 and V2 have:

1) Set and straight .. flush draw is alive
2) Set and better flush draw ... very bad for us
3) Pair/str draw and AA ... flush is alive
4) Pair/str draw and flush draw ... Q and Js are good
5) Combo and AA ... very bad for us

I don't think 2 to 1 is good for us here, even with the added chance of winning an additional $3400 in the main. However it is reasonable to say that if we win the side we would win the main as well. If you look at the overall pot we are getting 6.5 to 1 (16%).

I don't see too many scenarios where we are better than 20% to win here ... all the way down to 2% .. and we would have put in more than 28% of the overall pot.

Big pot .. It's your money and the story goes with it either way. GL

Last edited by answer20; 01-06-2016 at 12:15 PM.
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